The Shadow | 13 Oct 2017 7:55 p.m. PST |
I don't know much about heroclix, but I see that they've released a lot of 1930's-'40's comic book heroes like Dr. Fate, Spectre, Hawkman etc., so i wondered if they were removed from their large bases if they would compare in size to Murch Pulp, Artixan, copplestone etc. minis. Any help will be gratefully accepted. |
Allen57 | 13 Oct 2017 8:04 p.m. PST |
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piper909  | 13 Oct 2017 8:40 p.m. PST |
I would not hesitate to use them myself, and have done on occasion. Altho' I almost always repaint them to improve on the factory/coolie standards… and I've even learned that they can be safely chiseled off those large round Heroclix bases and put on standard wargame size bases. I've used Harley Quinn (still on her Heroclix base, alas) as a crime boss, with a gang of "Quinn-tets" for example.
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DeHewes | 14 Oct 2017 6:04 a.m. PST |
I use them frequently. There is a lot of variation in the Heroclix line. Some are very large – close to 35mm, others are small compared to other 'clixs and look just right with 28mm. I rebase and repaint the Heroclix. Stripping the paint off would be great but I have had inconsistent results with that. Here is a pic of a Heroclix Sandman, a Copplestone detective, a Pulp Figures Detective and a Golden Age Batman. link Some are smaller for the obvious reasons like golden age Atom and teen characters. A Pulp Alley and a Bob Murch Pulp Figure are between them. The figure on the far right started as Bruce Wayne but I am converting him to Will Eisner's Spirit. link |
The Shadow | 14 Oct 2017 6:36 a.m. PST |
Thanks guys. A picture is worth a thousand words. :-) Now, how did you get them off the original bases with harming the minis? |
DeHewes | 14 Oct 2017 7:29 a.m. PST |
I lay the 'clix on their side and cut with an Xacto as close to where the feet meet the base as I can. Be careful. |
The Angry Piper | 14 Oct 2017 9:25 a.m. PST |
The Shadow: Here is a picture of a Heroclix Wong with some Pulp Figures Chinese.
As you can see, the clix miniature is significantly taller than the guy on the left (even accounting for the foreground perspective). In general, older Heroclix models tend to be larger, while the newer sculpts (those available in blisters today) are slightly smaller scale. I put Heroclix in the freezer for a while before removing them from the base with a pair of nippy cutters. It works great. I did a pretty comprehensive post about rebasing and repainting clix models over at my blog. Check it out if so inclined. angrypiper.com/?p=1108 |
The Shadow | 14 Oct 2017 4:10 p.m. PST |
Nice overview Piper. Your article answered most of my questions, but not all. You mentioned flying bases, but not other types of bases that sit atop the disk. For instance, I was looking at a Golden Age Comics Green Lantern, and he appears to be standing on some kind of sled. Could I remove him from the sled by popping him off at his feet, or is that part of his mold and i'm stuck with the sled? There others that are similar. |
Pyrate Captain | 15 Oct 2017 7:14 a.m. PST |
One of my renditions of Scully and Mulder was made using Heroclix bits. They glue very well, have plenty of choices for in-scale NPCs, come with a range of Horrorclix aliens and other suitable types and look better next to 1/43 scale vehicles and O gauge buildings than most 28mm figures. The best part is that they are relatively inexpensive, are durable and paint well. |
Crazyivanov | 16 Oct 2017 12:51 a.m. PST |
I've been using Heroclix to source Drow, and figure it should be even easier to use for Pulp games. Use a pocket knife to remove them from their base, strip the awful paint job with simple green and paint as regular, unless you got lucky and have one with a tolerable paint job then you're set. |
The Angry Piper | 17 Oct 2017 8:53 a.m. PST |
/0/]link This guy? Well, the sled is based on one of those pesky crescents. If you don't want the sled, then nip him off at the feet. Freezing him first might make it easier. In my experience, cutting the feet would be easier than dealing with the plastic crescent, at any rate. Since he's designed to stand on the sled, he may not stand up well on his own (his feet might be uneven). So he may require some extra modelling to work for you. |
pvi99th | 17 Oct 2017 9:55 a.m. PST |
Depending on what you want to do with the figures, Heroclix can work really well. Last year, I ran a Captain America Civil War game. link I just did the freezing, and then used a good pair of snips to remove the crescent (if there). Then used a file to grind down anything left. I left the flying figures on the mounted flying bases. Depending on how you base figures, the crescent can actually come in handy. If you use the recessed, black slotted bases, then the crescent can fit right inside the recessed area. Obviously a bit more work to mount on clear bases. One thing with Heroclix is to look up various figures. Many of them come with the older flying stand bases and may also be available in other non-flying poses. Depending on what you want, it may be out there. |
The Angry Piper | 17 Oct 2017 10:27 a.m. PST |
Depending on how you base figures, the crescent can actually come in handy. If you use the recessed, black slotted bases, then the crescent can fit right inside the recessed area.
Yes. Green stuff is your friend. The crescents fit inside the recess perfectly. The Superman miniature is rebased on a recessed slotta base with green stuff filler for the ground. Of course, if you want to use a scenic base, you'll need to do something about the crescent… |
piper909  | 18 Oct 2017 1:15 p.m. PST |
I want to note that the Copplestone detective pictured above by DeHewes can be simply modified into a great Rorschach.
Just file a little down from his hat brim (more trilby, less fedora) and smooth sculpting epoxy over his face to make his cowl/mask (you might file that down a bit, too, to flatten out the nose and such) and paint accordingly. More vigilantes for rough justice! |
piper909  | 18 Oct 2017 1:30 p.m. PST |
A few more samples from a few Heroclix projects: The Phantom, converted from some other Marvel character I've since forgotten. Done some years back; there may be a specific Phantom by now.
A size comparison: on the left, Nite Owl II from the 1980s Grenadier Watchmen set; on the right, Nite Owl II as a current heroclix, much larger and based on the movie costume altho' I painted it more like the comic book original.
Mary Marvel after repainting and adding cotton to her base to make the flying pose more effective:
A classic ridiculous old Gotham City crook who will never get his own heroclix, but you can make this from Starman's -- Mr. Polka Dot!
Repaints of the Riddler, with a sidekick, Quiz! (made from a Diamondback figure).
The Fowl-Feathered Fink himself, needs no introduction:
Dollar Bill is one of the Minutemen/Watchmen who doesn't have his own figure, but the Catman can fill in nicely with just repainting required:
Finally, the Invisible Girl is my most used base heroclix to create my own creation, Tornado Girl:
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The Angry Piper | 20 Oct 2017 10:37 a.m. PST |
Piper, you are my hero for your Mr. Polka Dot conversion. You should join in the Forgotten Heroes challenge next year! link |
piper909  | 21 Oct 2017 11:57 a.m. PST |
Maybe! I wish I had pictures of my Punch and Jewelee conversions. AngryPiper, your Lucky Charms band of adventurers is brilliant! |