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John Edmundson12 Oct 2017 8:08 p.m. PST

They were drawn from the battalion so would have the same headgear (and coat and trouser colour . . .) as the rest of the battalion, right?

Thanks in advance,

marshalGreg13 Oct 2017 8:16 a.m. PST

The labor portion of the crew would be from the battalion wearing the battalion garb. The gunners are from the artillery branch and would be dressed like standard artillerist with the red shoulder straps.
I did them 2 and 2 per gun. Realistically it would 1 gunner and 3 labors in actual men ratio but it looks funny when only 4 figs to a gun and not actual 8 ( 2 or 3 gunners and bal labor).


von Winterfeldt19 Oct 2017 4:19 a.m. PST

grenz artillery did wear the uniform of their regiment and additional the artillery equipment.

John Edmundson08 Feb 2018 9:19 p.m. PST

Sorry to come back to this so late in the piece, but von Winterfeld, are you suggesting that if the Grenze are in white, the gunners will, unlike other artillery, also be in white (and with their infantry facing colours too?). And will this apply to the specialists as well as the labour. I know that for other artillery, as it was withdrawn from the infantry, it was serviced by the Handlanger, who were dressed in coats of the artillery rehbraun.

It sounds like you're suggesting that the Grenz would (ironically) have the only white-dressed artillery crew in the whole Austrian army. Which would be quite cool.

Another question – the only pictures I've seen of Grenzer artillery have them in the low peaked hat (I'm not sure if it's called a Kasket but it looks a bit like the 18th Century, pre-helmet infantry headgear). Is that correct or should they be in shako or bicorn like other artillery crew?


von Winterfeldt13 Feb 2018 12:29 a.m. PST

this is my only information about the Grenz artillery, seemingly they have the usual Grenzer uniform along with artillery equipment, how this changed during the year, I don't know

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John Edmundson13 Feb 2018 12:54 a.m. PST


I think I'd feel confident having some crew (the actual artillerists) in standard artillery uniforms (but without the bicorne (Shako perhaps) if I can find them I think AB do them in this hat but it sent out before 1809 for everyone else), and labour in this white for the regiments still in white.

von Winterfeldt13 Feb 2018 3:41 a.m. PST

One has to find out when the use of the grenz artillery was disbanded, I don't think it lasted well into the Napoleonic period – I wouldn't do them in artillery uniform but Grenzer uniform, so yes with the Klabuk and or shako

John Edmundson13 Feb 2018 11:30 a.m. PST

My understanding is that the Grenzer held onto their battalion guns longer than the line regiments so perhaps they'd still have had them in 1809.


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