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Great War Ace Inactive Member11 Oct 2017 8:02 a.m. PST

I knew that when Donald Trump got elected, that he would approach impressing the madmen of the world like Teddy Roosevelt did. Only today it isn't ships it's planes. Is "Rocket Man" even savvy enough to take the hint? Or will we have to beat on him like the Barbary pirates?

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member11 Oct 2017 8:18 a.m. PST

Fortunately, I'm on the road, and will have to miss this golden opportunity of visiting the Dawghouse.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2017 8:42 a.m. PST

Don't be silly.
Ultramodern Warfare has a papal dispensation regarding "politics".

McKinstry Fezian11 Oct 2017 10:16 a.m. PST

Those of us with children in the service at the sharp end would prefer a more measured approach as the "stick" happens to involve real people not paper counters or toy soldiers.

USAFpilot11 Oct 2017 10:53 a.m. PST

Remember what Sun Tzu said, 'All warfare is based upon deception.'

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member11 Oct 2017 11:48 a.m. PST

So are a lot of other things.

Private Matter11 Oct 2017 1:52 p.m. PST

+10 McKinstry

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member11 Oct 2017 2:03 p.m. PST

As it happens, I'm on the road because I'm on the way to Parris Island, to witness my nephew's graduation from Boot Camp, so another +10.

Choctaw11 Oct 2017 2:22 p.m. PST

+10 McKinstry. When it is your son who may bleed you fervently hope that the sword stays sheathed.

Dn Jackson11 Oct 2017 2:44 p.m. PST

I understand and agree with the sentiment of those who have children in the service. Mine are too young to serve and my days of getting shot at, (by foreign enemies as opposed to bad guys in this country), are over.

We have seen before that the fervent desire for peace at any cost can lead to far more loss of life in the future. I don't know if Trump is doing the right thing or not, but I pray that he is. Not only for my children and yours, but for those of the Koreans, Syrians, Yassidies, Israelis, and others.

whitejamest11 Oct 2017 3:36 p.m. PST

Sadly he is far too savvy to take the hint, if that's what we want to call it. He knows he's holding the better cards in this situation.

JMcCarroll Inactive Member11 Oct 2017 3:59 p.m. PST

Better to face him now with him only holding a few nukes.
Or would you prefer he has a hundred nukes. Playing the cards right is forcing the Chinese to act.

Lion in the Stars11 Oct 2017 4:02 p.m. PST

@Hafen: Congrats on the new Marine in the family!

Planes are much faster to get to a place than ships are, plus the US doesn't really have anything short of an Amphibious Ready Group to show the flag easily.

Cyrus the Great In the TMP Dawghouse11 Oct 2017 6:03 p.m. PST

Un has learned the valuable lesson of dictators that gave up their nuclear arsenals…they're no longer among the living!

daveshoe11 Oct 2017 9:31 p.m. PST

I always thought the statement was "Speak softly and carry a big stick."

But maybe I'm just misunderstanding what the first part of the means.

I also am pretty sure that TR said his foreign policy was: "the exercise of intelligent forethought and of decisive action sufficiently far in advance of any likely crisis."

Which does not seem to be the policy of the current administration.

Personal logo Florida Tory Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2017 4:06 a.m. PST

Another +10 for McKinistry. He spoke for a lot of us, I suspect.


Marianas Gamer12 Oct 2017 6:20 a.m. PST

I live in the cross hairs and work with the young people that will pay the Piper so I am happy to see the opinions like McKinstry's expressed. It was just the other day that they were ringing the bell for the sailors lost in the last few months. RIP and God bless them!

David Manley14 Oct 2017 2:52 a.m. PST

Showing the big stick has no effect on the "target" if they don't give a damn. In this case its more of a PR stunt aimed that the rest of the world and the ROK than Pyongyang

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