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John Edmundson11 Oct 2017 1:46 a.m. PST

Hi,
Would it be plausible to paint Grenzer troops in 1809 within one battalion in a fairly random combination of the brown and white, with a mix of black leather and white leather on the white, but maybe only black leather over the brown?

Also, does anyone make a 15mm Grenzer wearing the cloak?

Thanks,
John

Green Tiger Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2017 3:07 a.m. PST

No

John Edmundson11 Oct 2017 3:55 a.m. PST

Is that no to the first question, the second question, or both?

TMPWargamerabbit11 Oct 2017 8:28 a.m. PST

I have some painted Grenzers with cloaks…. but cannot think of the manufacture. Thinking Perry for some reason. Don't think I added the cloak.

rmaker11 Oct 2017 10:04 a.m. PST

Since the provision of brown and white uniforms was by regiment, the answer to your first question is no.

Don't know about the cloaked figures. Of course, if your friends have a sense of humor, you could just field empty stands and when asked claim that they are "cloaked" grenzers.

Supercilius Maximus11 Oct 2017 12:33 p.m. PST

Was the provision of uniforms "by regiment" an "in toto" issue all in one go, or was it done by battalions within a regiment on a yearly basis, like the French did?

John Edmundson11 Oct 2017 1:14 p.m. PST

My understanding was that it was a third every two years and that the order was issued in 1808. So any who were due for replacement in 1808-9 might have got them, plus replacement troops coming from the border areas might have had only the hausmontur. I also wonder whether or not the Grenzers could count on getting their allocated uniforms so might have had to fall back on the hausmontur anyway as their white uniforms became unserviceable and not replaced.

rmaker11 Oct 2017 1:19 p.m. PST

The coat colors were assigned specifically to the regiments. Thus Nrs. 1, 2, 4, 6, 10, 11, 12, and 15 had brown coats, while 3, 5, 7, 9 ,13, 14, 16, and 17 had white. Nr. 8 (Gradiskaner) started out in white, but switched to brown in 1808 – and had pink facings!

The usual Austrian practice was not to issue made up garments, but to issue the uncut cloth and let the regimental tailors do the work.

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