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21 Apr 2018 5:07 p.m. PST
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Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 5:31 a.m. PST

Do you wargame groups of angry civilians?

Rioters. Protestors. Mobs. Ad hoc posses. That kind of thing.

For this question, these groups are different from militias (which may be angry), trained together (however poorly and briefly) para=military forces, or deputized posses. So, groups either self-organized ro led by a single agent provocateur without "establishment" authority.


BTW, that's not really the point of the movie Network, (just a mild misuse of the key phrase) but if you haven't seen it, you should.

Cyrus the Great07 Oct 2017 5:56 a.m. PST


Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 6:18 a.m. PST


ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 7:19 a.m. PST


Grelber07 Oct 2017 7:31 a.m. PST

Thought about it, and bought some civilian figures with improvised weapons. Haven't actually used them, though.


Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 7:52 a.m. PST

Yes l have used ‘Irregular miniatures' riot packs


flooglestreet Inactive Member07 Oct 2017 8:43 a.m. PST

If boardgames count I've played Chicago, Chicago, about the '68 Democratic Convention riots. Some interesting mechanics for simulating mobs of angry civilians and police losing control of themselves. The game was included with a copy of Strategy and Tactics magazine.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 9:06 a.m. PST

"B'hoys!," for the battles between the Gangs of New York has been out for some 14 years, and been supported by a purpose sculpted line of brilliant figures by Bobby Jackson.

The game system itself has been reportedly used for dust-ups between Neanderthals and Roman chariot race factions.

So, yeah, I've done it, and so have lots of others.


Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 9:22 a.m. PST

Back before he was Strategy and Tactics, Jim Dunnigan self published "Up Against the Wall M***** Bleeped text**."
It was about the riots at Columbia University.
I had a copy, just to have one. Don't remember what happened to it. Probably flea market.

Oberlindes Sol LIC07 Oct 2017 11:12 a.m. PST

Somewhere I have a map-and-counters game of the Battle of Seattle, the 1999 WTO protests. I've never played it, but I'd like to.

Civilian miniatures are kind of a pain to paint because

(1) They are all wearing civilian clothes, so you're making color choices as to each one, and

(2) There are a lot more of them then there are of uniformed forces, which exacerbates problem (1).

rmaker07 Oct 2017 11:34 a.m. PST

Yes – French Revolutions.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 12:27 p.m. PST


Kind of a mandatory staple for Gothic Horror!

Personal logo Toy Soldier Green Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 4:13 p.m. PST

Only those peasants that fall victim to attacks by werewolves and other eldritch creatures.

KPinder07 Oct 2017 4:57 p.m. PST

I've always wanted to game the Baltimore 1856 election riots. You wanna game a riot? They had to bring in artillery, and fire it, to put that one to bed.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member07 Oct 2017 5:56 p.m. PST

I still intend to get some of Old Glory's Revolting Peasants line--if for no other reason than "Revolting Women and Children" has to be the best name ever for a pack of miniatures.


DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2017 3:42 a.m. PST

Have some for my English civil war troops – use them as a militia of sorts

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2017 9:15 a.m. PST

I keep about 100 in the 28mm SF--a Block War, say, or the Storm Troopers could clean up the wretched hive of scum and villainy which is Mos Eisley. Hmm. I also make sure half of them are wearing something blue and half something red, with no one dressed in blue and red. It gives me options for internal quarrels.

altfritz08 Oct 2017 12:47 p.m. PST

To play "Junta" on the tabletop they are required. Striking Dockworkers and Students, IIRC.

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2017 8:25 a.m. PST


Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2017 8:25 a.m. PST

The real question is, do you game with angry people?

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member09 Oct 2017 11:59 a.m. PST

On occasion. Can't say I've ever gamed with any revolting ones. At least nothing like this:


Don't know what they thought about me,though.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Oct 2017 3:39 p.m. PST

So … me:

1) Sci Fi Civilians
2) Pioneer/Old West Civilians
3) Medieval European & Asian Farmers
4) Modern Civilians
5) Luddites
6) Ancient Mediterranean Civilians

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