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Terry3704 Oct 2017 10:06 p.m. PST

I am looking for feedback, thoughts or definitive information about how the troopers in Sanchez's guerrilla army might have actually dressed – those who wore the captured Polish Guard Lancer uniforms. Please though, I am not looking for a "do it as you feel" type reply – as I know I can always do that.

The few sources I have state that uniforms intended for a detachment for the Lancers of the Imperial Guard were "liberated". The fact that I cannot find anything more finite than the term "uniform" leaves a very large gap of exactly what was captured. Was it just the tunic, or was it the complete uniform – tunic cap and trousers?

I have found one modern print that shows a trooper of this guerrilla band dressed in the tunic and cap, but with the typical brown trousers.

Maybe there is nothing any more finite available, but I have been amazed more than once by what has been shared that I was never even aware of even though I have studied Napoleonic uniforms for the past 50 years.

Thanks for any help or thoughts.

Terry

Prince of Essling Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2017 12:07 a.m. PST

Try ;

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Green Tiger Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2017 1:33 a.m. PST

This was quite a large formation and it is unlikely that they were able to uniform any more than a very small portion in these uniforms – more widespread (thoughlargely speculative)is a short braided jacket with a wide brimmed hat.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2017 2:17 a.m. PST

Brigade Games Miniatures produce these chaps in that look. Seems far more likely than a Kurtka and Czapka from the Poles. But what a great idea to add a couple thus turned out….with white fringed epaulettes of course!

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Prince of Essling Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2017 2:45 a.m. PST

These are the usual illustrations for the lanceros:

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La Fleche05 Oct 2017 3:11 a.m. PST

Some information came to light when I enquired previously:

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Gazzola05 Oct 2017 4:42 a.m. PST

Terry37

The bottom illustration offered by Prince of Essling can be found in Spanish Guerrillas in the Peninsular War 1808-14 by Rene Chartrand (Plate B, Osprey Elite 108)

Chartrand, in his accompanying text to the plate (pages 60-61) states that Sanchez's guerrilla bands did appear to have had 'uniformity of sorts from the beginning.'

Hope this helps.

Terry3705 Oct 2017 7:17 a.m. PST

Thank you all for the feed back.

Prince, I am aware of the Bueno print.

I also have the Osprey books, plus have had access to an original copy of Goddard and Booth. I know of the gray jacket uniform, but am specifically looking for additional information re the captured Polish lancer.

I very much appreciate the link to the previous thread about Sanchez lancers La Fleche.

Perhaps there is nothing more finite, so it will be as I best see them. Thought I'd give it a try.

Again, thank you!

Terry

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