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Personal logo D6 Junkie Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 5:31 p.m. PST

Okay so a friend sent me the link to the Free People in age of sigmar. Wonderful, I can bring out my old 6th ed figs. But where are the Knights??? What is the Empire without it's mounted Knights?

nsolomon9901 Oct 2017 6:29 p.m. PST

They're not there! No knights, volley guns, steam tanks, etc. A couple of years later and there are still only a few smatterings and the odd photo of the Empire people's, no High Elves, Dark Elves, no true Dwarves, no full Skaven list or Vampire Counts!! Sylvaneth & Seraphone (Lizardmen) are there but in stunted form, without their great characters and history and sense of location and climate. And yes, Brettonians and Tomb Kings we will never see again. x

Of Course, in that time they've done full Sigmarines (Stormcast Eternals) twice and Khorne twice and fleshed out (pun intended) the rest of Chaos somewhat.

Not really a lot to show for it all – we've gone back to Warhammer Fantasy Battle.

Black Cavalier01 Oct 2017 7:01 p.m. PST

While there may be no models for sale for many old unit types, there are battle scroll rules for what I believe are most of the original warhammer units and races.

link

The empire one does include knights.

Personal logo D6 Junkie Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 7:13 p.m. PST

Thanks Cavalier,
so freeguild list plus this fills out most of the units.

Thomas Thomas Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2017 9:29 a.m. PST

For those interested in high fantasy and a return to the rich history of the Old World (with plenty of knights), I've nearly completed the next edition of A Game of Knights and Knaves: the Old World Edition which will cover medieval "Europe" in both history and fantasy.

I should have it out within a month on WargamesVault. Just finishing the second edition of the Fire and Ice edition covering the War of the Roses in both history and the fantasy worlds that were inspired by it (including mine set in the New World).

The new edition will give your Bretonian and Empire Knights lots to do – as well as classical High Elves and Wood Elves etc. plus you get the much better DBX mechanics.

Thomas J. Thomas
Fame and Glory Games

The H Man02 Oct 2017 8:11 p.m. PST

A link, Tom Tom?

Firstly Aging sick ma (I'll keep using it till it catches on) (yeah, good luck) has nothing to do with history. Wfb was based in part on history and the real world. Aos is loosly based upon wfb. Aos is in no way based upon anything real.

With wfb you could use historical models or those of other comps easy. Aos makes this harder (though, of course not impossible).

I feel many of the non marine or chaos lists presented are only to appease people with existing models. They may eventually get complete over hauls.

I wander if it may be that gw has to play catch up to people not liking their computer game style, 40kish, non realistic game, by back peddling and releasing armies more in line with wfb?

Centurio Prime03 Oct 2017 5:30 a.m. PST

d6 Junkie,

There are Steam Tanks, Helblaster Volley Guns, and Helstorms in Age of Sigmar currently, as part of the Ironweld faction. Knights are in "The Empire" faction and are usable in AoS Order armies.

They have stopped selling the knights and certain other "historical" type units in favor of fantasy units they can enforce copyright on…. Demigryph Knights for example. But you can still use your knights in the game.

They have just released the Firestorm campaign set which includes lore and army lists for 7 cities of the Free People (Free People, Stormcast, and their allies). This also includes pictures and the paint schemes for the Free People of these cities.

So almost everything stated above about AoS is wrong, if you want to play AoS with your friend, you can use your knights and other old WFB units such as the mortars and great cannon. You can also play various other games with your Empire miniatures, but you asked about AoS.

Centurio Prime03 Oct 2017 5:35 a.m. PST

nsoloman99,

Sylvaneth in stunted form? LOL. They have a full army book with history and characters, and are one of the main factions in the Realmgate Wars, featured VERY prominently in the 4 hardback books. They are also a very tough army on the tabletop. Just because you have never read about the Sylvaneth doesn't mean they are "stunted".

The H Man03 Oct 2017 2:50 p.m. PST

Not sure how they can stop people making armored knights on hypogryths and such like. Seems more like they have come up with a bunch of new stuff for people to parody and increase and refresh their own ranges. It is a pointless exercise. It's only their names they really own, and they are just silly.

Though I don't read much, I can't think of any fantasy setting without knights or at least people on horses. I'm sure they exist, but the bulk have them, even much sci fi. Seems very odd not to.

Just to clarify are the rules for the Knights in the New aos books and releases or only in get you by rules to use with the wfb range in aos?

Centurio Prime04 Oct 2017 6:20 a.m. PST

The knights are in the downloadable PDFs AND in the AoS app.

Another thing they have done is they do not have rules in their current releases for models which do not exist or that aren't being released in the near future. I believe this is because they don't want 3rd parties "filling in the gaps" of their army list, as has happened in the past. So if they did decide to redo a box of plastic knights, they will have rules in the main books.

There are horses in the setting, in fact the Free People have Outriders and Pistoliers, plus the Empire general, who all ride horses.

The advice I would give is… if you already own Empire knights, then use them in AoS, their stats are in the PDFs and in the GW army building app. If you are starting a new Free People's army and buying miniatures, I would not seek out Empire knights to purchase. Instead I would look at the army list in the Order book, and the warscroll battalions available, and buy based on that.

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