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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP26 Sep 2017 12:37 p.m. PST

That's a big wolf!!


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Graycat Inactive Member26 Sep 2017 9:20 p.m. PST

Really, really cool.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2017 1:00 a.m. PST

I really REALLY like this one!

PS. Wow, I found myself hearing this tune and lyrics in the background, as I looked over the details of the diorama:
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Graycat Inactive Member27 Sep 2017 5:20 a.m. PST
Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member27 Sep 2017 5:24 a.m. PST

This one,for me--go with the original!

Surprising how many versions of this there are on youtube.

On second thought, not so surprising.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2017 9:15 a.m. PST


One day you should look up how many different versions of the tale there are. I think you'd enjoy the variants.

As a little kid in the late 1960s and 70s, I grew up hearing at least 3 different versions of La Caperucita Roja in Spanish. The oldest one even gave "Vargo" (Warg) as the name of the wolf!

Some of the versions I've read about in English are extremely old and very graphic.

And then of course there's the whole lycanthropy thing, where people* were said to be possessed by some spirit or demon with predatory animal (not always wolf) tendencies.

Lycanthropy seems to run through most cultures across the globe, in one form (pardon the pun) or another, from pre-Sumerian times to the present.

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* Those who were either victims of their own mental disposition or who became that way through ingesting bad (ergot-infested) grain or even exotic mushrooms. Can you even imagine what an "angry drunk" would be like on hallucinogens in ancient times, specially one not too well liked by the village to begin with!

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2017 10:35 a.m. PST

Happy you like it boys!. (smile)


Jim Selzer27 Sep 2017 3:24 p.m. PST

very well done

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member27 Sep 2017 5:05 p.m. PST

Although I was referring only to the number of youtube videos of the Sam the Sham song (!), that's a very interesting bit concerning the Spanish versions of the story. Browsing around the Web leads me to ask: was this Senor Vargo considered to be a Hungarian gentleman?

Tolkien most likely got "warg" from Old Norse and Old English. The first had "vargr" meaning both "wolf" and "outlaw"; the second had "wearh",meaning "outlaw" or "outcast" (not wolf,though ). T. A. Shippey asks why Old Norse felt it needed another name for wolf,when it already had a common one,"ulfr". He suggests that Tolkien may have considered the possibility that this could refer to some special sort of wolf,a "demonic" one. Or even a kind of lycanthope. He certainly adopted the old stories about skin changers with Beorn.

I'll look for those Spanish Red stories. It's an interesting subject. I haven't really studied them much for a number of years, since Bruno Bettelheim's Freudian analysis in "The Uses of Enchantment" back in 1976, rebutted by Robert Danton in "The Great Cat Masssacre"(1984).

Concerning the uses of hallucinogens in ancient or "primitive" societies, my impression has been that it was,and is,very restricted,either to a special class,or by being bound up in ritual. I'm not sure there would be many occasions for the "town drunk" sort of character to get hold of enough to go on a bender.

OTOH,there's the Viking "berserker". Where did that come from? The name "Beowulf" means bear. And Hrolf Kraki had a follower whose nickname,"Bjarki" means "Little Bear",and whose parents' names were also words for bear. It's very suggestive,at the least.

Personal logo Wolfshanza Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2017 10:40 p.m. PST

I remember (ages ago) the origional tonight show with Steve Allen had a Mexican kid that told the tales with a latin twist. In the end, the Cisco Kid gunned the Big Bad Wolf down and saved RRH grin

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2017 10:46 p.m. PST

Glad you like it too my friend!.


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