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Winston Smith25 Sep 2017 9:43 a.m. PST

Generally speaking, I mean where at least the rider's legs and waist are cast on the horse. There could be more than that.

1. Yes
2. No
3. Some are done well, some are not


I am firmly in the NO camp. I have never seen it done well.
Back in the 1980s, Grenadier had a bunch of historical ranges.
Medieval knights were one example. The rider's body ended at the waist. The pieces never fit well. I suspect it was due to the sculptor not quite understanding how the greens would shrink. In addition, the hole to accept the peg was usually filled in, and the casting was a difficult metal to scoop out.

Old Glory Plains Indians have the same problems.

Perry AWI cavalry have the entire body and head cast, but have separate weapon arms.
The problem here is that the coat tails and equipment are "flapping in the breeze" with a lot of metal to trim underneath.

Finally, in all of the above, the feet nearly always need to have a met buildup filed or scraped away between boots and horse.

I am not a fan.

Pictors Studio25 Sep 2017 9:47 a.m. PST

No.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 9:54 a.m. PST

Yes

IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 9:57 a.m. PST

No.

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 10:01 a.m. PST

No

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 10:15 a.m. PST

No.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 10:23 a.m. PST

At 28mm, I prefer a separate casting for horse & rider, though I can go either way on saddle and saddle blanket. At 15mm, I much prefer one piece castings

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 11:02 a.m. PST

I don't mind, so long as the rider ends up with him looking like he is actually riding his mount!

willthepiper25 Sep 2017 11:21 a.m. PST

No. 3 for me. I quite like the Perry cavalry.

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 11:38 a.m. PST

Robert +1

GatorDave Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 11:43 a.m. PST

Yes.

Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 12:10 p.m. PST

3 and with the advance of arthritis in the hands it is becoming a 1 as the less bits the better.

x42

Hafen von Schlockenberg25 Sep 2017 12:12 p.m. PST

Definitely not.

I bought a pack of those Grenadiers back then,BTW-Normans,IIRC. The horse's rear legs looked like they were tied together,and being dragged along behind him. That one pack was enough.

Cyrus the Great25 Sep 2017 12:18 p.m. PST

3.
I generally like one piece castings. Winston/John is describing a 2 piece casting with the rider joined at the waist. Winston/John is right about those.

Winston Smith25 Sep 2017 12:33 p.m. PST

I would call a "2 piece casting" one with Horse and rider totally separate.

I neglected to include Hinchliffe OPC figures in my OP. They were truly one piece, with the mentioned problem with metal cast between boot and Horse often needing extensive cleaning.

14Bore25 Sep 2017 12:53 p.m. PST

Since you left me out I imagine painting them ( much as in15mm)separate is easier but the finished figure in 1 piece looks better.

Huscarle25 Sep 2017 1:19 p.m. PST

I have a few one-piece cavalry castings, but yes I do like them.
I have some Ral Partha fantasy medieval types, and from the 70s some of my oldest figures, still doing sterling service – Garrison Sword & Sorcery Hyrkranian Horse Archers (that I use as Huns).

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 1:26 p.m. PST

No, nay, never!

Red Jacket Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 1:35 p.m. PST

Nope.

jeffreyw325 Sep 2017 2:34 p.m. PST

Perry does Russian officers as one-piece models, and they're very nice. Generally, I like separate rider/horse unless the horse furniture is cast with the rider, instead of the horse. These never seem to fit well.

377CSG Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 3:04 p.m. PST

Yes

wrgmr125 Sep 2017 3:18 p.m. PST

No.

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 6:44 p.m. PST

3 I've seen some nice casting done both ways.

Cacique Caribe25 Sep 2017 6:54 p.m. PST

Depends. Some wear them well.

Dan

Old Contemptibles Supporting Member of TMP26 Sep 2017 3:14 a.m. PST

NO

RudyNelson26 Sep 2017 5:59 a.m. PST

In 15mm I prefer 1 piece cavalry castings. In 25/28mm it does not matter as much.
As a seller of miniatures one-piece castins are better since you never have more riders or horses than the other. This is a constant problem with desperate castings.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP26 Sep 2017 11:51 a.m. PST

No (28mm)

I painted a few Perry Russian dragoons i think that was one piece. I did not care for it in very glad their French Dragoons were two part.

Hafen von Schlockenberg26 Sep 2017 11:54 a.m. PST

I own a few desperate castings.

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