Winston Smith | 25 Sep 2017 10:43 a.m. PST |
Generally speaking, I mean where at least the rider's legs and waist are cast on the horse. There could be more than that. 1. Yes 2. No 3. Some are done well, some are not I am firmly in the NO camp. I have never seen it done well. Back in the 1980s, Grenadier had a bunch of historical ranges. Medieval knights were one example. The rider's body ended at the waist. The pieces never fit well. I suspect it was due to the sculptor not quite understanding how the greens would shrink. In addition, the hole to accept the peg was usually filled in, and the casting was a difficult metal to scoop out.
Old Glory Plains Indians have the same problems. Perry AWI cavalry have the entire body and head cast, but have separate weapon arms. The problem here is that the coat tails and equipment are "flapping in the breeze" with a lot of metal to trim underneath. Finally, in all of the above, the feet nearly always need to have a met buildup filed or scraped away between boots and horse. I am not a fan. |
Pictors Studio | 25 Sep 2017 10:47 a.m. PST |
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Shagnasty | 25 Sep 2017 10:54 a.m. PST |
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IronDuke596 | 25 Sep 2017 10:57 a.m. PST |
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Col Durnford | 25 Sep 2017 11:01 a.m. PST |
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Joes Shop | 25 Sep 2017 11:15 a.m. PST |
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robert piepenbrink | 25 Sep 2017 11:23 a.m. PST |
At 28mm, I prefer a separate casting for horse & rider, though I can go either way on saddle and saddle blanket. At 15mm, I much prefer one piece castings |
Herkybird | 25 Sep 2017 12:02 p.m. PST |
I don't mind, so long as the rider ends up with him looking like he is actually riding his mount! |
willthepiper | 25 Sep 2017 12:21 p.m. PST |
No. 3 for me. I quite like the Perry cavalry. |
Doctor X | 25 Sep 2017 12:38 p.m. PST |
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GatorDave | 25 Sep 2017 12:43 p.m. PST |
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x42brown | 25 Sep 2017 1:10 p.m. PST |
3 and with the advance of arthritis in the hands it is becoming a 1 as the less bits the better. x42 |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 25 Sep 2017 1:12 p.m. PST |
Definitely not. I bought a pack of those Grenadiers back then,BTW-Normans,IIRC. The horse's rear legs looked like they were tied together,and being dragged along behind him. That one pack was enough. |
Cyrus the Great | 25 Sep 2017 1:18 p.m. PST |
3. I generally like one piece castings. Winston/John is describing a 2 piece casting with the rider joined at the waist. Winston/John is right about those. |
Winston Smith | 25 Sep 2017 1:33 p.m. PST |
I would call a "2 piece casting" one with Horse and rider totally separate. I neglected to include Hinchliffe OPC figures in my OP. They were truly one piece, with the mentioned problem with metal cast between boot and Horse often needing extensive cleaning. |
14Bore | 25 Sep 2017 1:53 p.m. PST |
Since you left me out I imagine painting them ( much as in15mm)separate is easier but the finished figure in 1 piece looks better. |
Huscarle | 25 Sep 2017 2:19 p.m. PST |
I have a few one-piece cavalry castings, but yes I do like them. I have some Ral Partha fantasy medieval types, and from the 70s some of my oldest figures, still doing sterling service – Garrison Sword & Sorcery Hyrkranian Horse Archers (that I use as Huns). |
miniMo | 25 Sep 2017 2:26 p.m. PST |
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Red Jacket | 25 Sep 2017 2:35 p.m. PST |
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jeffreyw3 | 25 Sep 2017 3:34 p.m. PST |
Perry does Russian officers as one-piece models, and they're very nice. Generally, I like separate rider/horse unless the horse furniture is cast with the rider, instead of the horse. These never seem to fit well. |
377CSG | 25 Sep 2017 4:04 p.m. PST |
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wrgmr1 | 25 Sep 2017 4:18 p.m. PST |
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ZULUPAUL | 25 Sep 2017 7:44 p.m. PST |
3 I've seen some nice casting done both ways. |
Cacique Caribe | 25 Sep 2017 7:54 p.m. PST |
Depends. Some wear them well. Dan |
Old Contemptibles | 26 Sep 2017 4:14 a.m. PST |
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Rudysnelson | 26 Sep 2017 6:59 a.m. PST |
In 15mm I prefer 1 piece cavalry castings. In 25/28mm it does not matter as much. As a seller of miniatures one-piece castins are better since you never have more riders or horses than the other. This is a constant problem with desperate castings. |
Gunfreak | 26 Sep 2017 12:51 p.m. PST |
No (28mm) I painted a few Perry Russian dragoons i think that was one piece. I did not care for it in very glad their French Dragoons were two part. |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 26 Sep 2017 12:54 p.m. PST |
I own a few desperate castings. |