| Tango01 | 23 Sep 2017 4:26 p.m. PST |
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 Murphy  | 23 Sep 2017 9:34 p.m. PST |
Can't be an A2..I don't see the accompanying set of hull and turret mechanics working like crazy to keep the damn thing running…. |
| Dynaman8789 | 24 Sep 2017 4:28 a.m. PST |
First time I saw this thing I thought it was a joke. |
| Rudysnelson | 24 Sep 2017 7:16 a.m. PST |
All of the main gun problems of the Sheridan, misleading electronics and still having the use the WW2 era V sight. Plus all of the track maint headaches of the M60A1. They had a battalion of them in another brigade. |
 Legion 4   | 24 Sep 2017 9:43 a.m. PST |
Yes, the "old timers" in our Tank & Mech Bns talked about what a maint. nightmare those were. And many spent most of the time in the Motor Pool. Never even saw them sold to other countries, like other versions of the M60, etc., … I'm sure no one would want them either ! |
| Tango01 | 24 Sep 2017 12:50 p.m. PST |
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| Lion in the Stars | 25 Sep 2017 2:59 a.m. PST |
Weren't all the M60A2s converted to either A3s or the engineer tanks? |
| Legion 4 | 25 Sep 2017 8:29 a.m. PST |
Good to know Lion, if true. There was nothing wrong with the hulls. |
| Murvihill | 25 Sep 2017 9:59 a.m. PST |
The first set of modern microarmor tanks I bought. I didn't know any better, then found out that I really couldn't use them. Not sure where they ended up. |
| emckinney | 25 Sep 2017 11:19 a.m. PST |
I remember how cool looking they were when I was a kid … It might have been a good idea if the main gun/electronics problems had been worked out. The Soviets sure ended up in love with the gun-launched missile concept. |
| Rudysnelson | 25 Sep 2017 4:26 p.m. PST |
The M60A2 did not have all the firing electronics issues that my M551 had. When we fired the main gun 152mm round, the recoil lifted the tracks to the third road wheel and you could not fire it over the side at all. Anyway the bounce was what messed up the missile firing systems. So in exercises we would fire all the missiles first which was not that many before using the 152mm rounds. The M60A2 did not have to worry about the bounce but the Main gun recoil would still have a chance to mess up the firing system. An interesting game design option for Modern tank vs tank combat. |
| Legion 4 | 26 Sep 2017 7:19 a.m. PST |
You would think they would have known that when testing the M551. About the "bounce" messing with the electronics, etc. But this wasn't the first time something like this happened with equipment issues. |
| ScoutJock | 26 Sep 2017 1:36 p.m. PST |
One of our Cobra crew chiefs had an mos as a turret mechanic prior to switching to aviation. He said the hydraulics in the starships made the Cobra system look like hooking up a garden hose. |
| lincolnlog | 22 Nov 2017 11:29 a.m. PST |
My platoon was Teamed with a Company of M60A2's in 1980 for ARTEPs in Hohenfels. Very interesting field exercise. |
| Legion 4 | 22 Nov 2017 2:32 p.m. PST |
The A2s actually got out of the Motor Pool !  |
| lincolnlog | 27 Nov 2017 7:11 p.m. PST |
Well, long enough for an ARTEP. I honestly never heard the crews speak poorly of them. But contact was short lived. This unit went to M60A3s and then to M1's in 82. |
| Lion in the Stars | 27 Nov 2017 11:28 p.m. PST |
I think the biggest problem with the Starship (and the Sheridan) was that the US designed a missile and then made a gun to launch it. The Russians don't seem to have much trouble with their GL-ATGMs, because they made a missile to launch out of an existing gun. |
| lincolnlog | 28 Nov 2017 4:42 a.m. PST |
Agreed, but was almost necessary. The Shillelagh's acilles heel was it's minimum range (approx. 900 meters). Having said that, the M60A2 & M551 were the only US tanks to have a HESH round. |
| Legion 4 | 28 Nov 2017 4:23 p.m. PST |
Never had any A2s in any unit I served with/was attached to. But I'm going on all stories from the old Maint WOs and NCOs relayed to me as a young Bn then Bde Motor/Maint Officer … But as we see, they did not last too long in the inventory.  |
| Charlie 12 | 28 Nov 2017 9:04 p.m. PST |
The A2s actually got out of the Motor Pool ! Oh that's not surprising. From the turret ring down its just another bog standard (if cranky) M60. Its the turret ring up where things went pear shaped! One of the gunners in my old NG unit (we had M60A1s and then transitioned to M60A3s) was an ex-A2 gunner. And he HATED that damned system! |
| Legion 4 | 29 Nov 2017 8:17 a.m. PST |
That is pretty much the in line with the stories I was told … |
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