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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 3:26 p.m. PST



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Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP Inactive Member23 Sep 2017 8:34 p.m. PST

Can't be an A2..I don't see the accompanying set of hull and turret mechanics working like crazy to keep the damn thing running….

Dynaman878924 Sep 2017 3:28 a.m. PST

First time I saw this thing I thought it was a joke.

RudyNelson24 Sep 2017 6:16 a.m. PST

All of the main gun problems of the Sheridan, misleading electronics and still having the use the WW2 era V sight. Plus all of the track maint headaches of the M60A1. They had a battalion of them in another brigade.

Legion 424 Sep 2017 8:43 a.m. PST

Yes, the "old timers" in our Tank & Mech Bns talked about what a maint. nightmare those were. And many spent most of the time in the Motor Pool. Never even saw them sold to other countries, like other versions of the M60, etc., … I'm sure no one would want them either !

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 11:50 a.m. PST



Lion in the Stars25 Sep 2017 1:59 a.m. PST

Weren't all the M60A2s converted to either A3s or the engineer tanks?

Legion 425 Sep 2017 7:29 a.m. PST

Good to know Lion, if true. There was nothing wrong with the hulls.

Murvihill25 Sep 2017 8:59 a.m. PST

The first set of modern microarmor tanks I bought. I didn't know any better, then found out that I really couldn't use them. Not sure where they ended up.

emckinney25 Sep 2017 10:19 a.m. PST

I remember how cool looking they were when I was a kid …

It might have been a good idea if the main gun/electronics problems had been worked out. The Soviets sure ended up in love with the gun-launched missile concept.

RudyNelson25 Sep 2017 3:26 p.m. PST

The M60A2 did not have all the firing electronics issues that my M551 had. When we fired the main gun 152mm round, the recoil lifted the tracks to the third road wheel and you could not fire it over the side at all. Anyway the bounce was what messed up the missile firing systems. So in exercises we would fire all the missiles first which was not that many before using the 152mm rounds.

The M60A2 did not have to worry about the bounce but the Main gun recoil would still have a chance to mess up the firing system. An interesting game design option for Modern tank vs tank combat.

Legion 426 Sep 2017 6:19 a.m. PST

You would think they would have known that when testing the M551. About the "bounce" messing with the electronics, etc. But this wasn't the first time something like this happened with equipment issues.

ScoutJock26 Sep 2017 12:36 p.m. PST

One of our Cobra crew chiefs had an mos as a turret mechanic prior to switching to aviation. He said the hydraulics in the starships made the Cobra system look like hooking up a garden hose.

lincolnlog22 Nov 2017 10:29 a.m. PST

My platoon was Teamed with a Company of M60A2's in 1980 for ARTEPs in Hohenfels. Very interesting field exercise.

Legion 422 Nov 2017 1:32 p.m. PST

The A2s actually got out of the Motor Pool ! wink

lincolnlog27 Nov 2017 6:11 p.m. PST

Well, long enough for an ARTEP. I honestly never heard the crews speak poorly of them. But contact was short lived. This unit went to M60A3s and then to M1's in 82.

Lion in the Stars27 Nov 2017 10:28 p.m. PST

I think the biggest problem with the Starship (and the Sheridan) was that the US designed a missile and then made a gun to launch it.

The Russians don't seem to have much trouble with their GL-ATGMs, because they made a missile to launch out of an existing gun.

lincolnlog28 Nov 2017 3:42 a.m. PST

Agreed, but was almost necessary. The Shillelagh's acilles heel was it's minimum range (approx. 900 meters).

Having said that, the M60A2 & M551 were the only US tanks to have a HESH round.

Legion 428 Nov 2017 3:23 p.m. PST

Never had any A2s in any unit I served with/was attached to. But I'm going on all stories from the old Maint WOs and NCOs relayed to me as a young Bn then Bde Motor/Maint Officer … But as we see, they did not last too long in the inventory. evil grin

Charlie 12 Inactive Member28 Nov 2017 8:04 p.m. PST

The A2s actually got out of the Motor Pool !

Oh that's not surprising. From the turret ring down its just another bog standard (if cranky) M60. Its the turret ring up where things went pear shaped! One of the gunners in my old NG unit (we had M60A1s and then transitioned to M60A3s) was an ex-A2 gunner. And he HATED that damned system!

Legion 429 Nov 2017 7:17 a.m. PST

That is pretty much the in line with the stories I was told …

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