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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian23 Sep 2017 3:14 p.m. PST

Which historical figure best represents the Age of Chivalry?

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 3:17 p.m. PST

Henry II of England.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 3:39 p.m. PST

Sir John Chandos

Personal logo Toy Soldier Green Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 3:41 p.m. PST

Sir Elton John. No just kidding.

James Butler, 12th Earl of Ormond.

Rich Bliss Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 3:58 p.m. PST

Bayard

willthepiper23 Sep 2017 4:58 p.m. PST

William Marshal

Prince Alberts Revenge23 Sep 2017 5:22 p.m. PST

Bertrand du Guesclin. Pretty impressive resume.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 6:00 p.m. PST

Charlie Bassett

saltflats192923 Sep 2017 7:35 p.m. PST

Lancelot.

Puster Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 8:35 p.m. PST

If you look for a representant of the best in medieval times, then my candidate is the stupor mundi:

Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor

Multilingual, multicultural. Leading one of the two crusades that actually gained Jerusalem, by negotiation. Patron of science and arts, and what better recommandation can you get then being excommunicated four times …

If you look for a shining knightly exemplar showing the proper military prowess, then there are other candidates.

Sandinista23 Sep 2017 10:51 p.m. PST

Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick.
Representing the very best of English aristocracy

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 12:26 a.m. PST

I'll second William the Marshal.

English Thegn24 Sep 2017 3:16 a.m. PST

William Marshal for me too.

Lovejoy24 Sep 2017 3:24 a.m. PST

Best Knight; William Marshal, without a doubt.

Which historical figure best represents the Age of Chivalry though, is really a different question; and the answer is Edward III.

Personal logo Great War Ace Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 6:19 a.m. PST

Or Robert the Bruce. Henry de Bohun would agree. ;)

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 6:52 a.m. PST

5th on William the Marshal

Huscarle Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 7:24 a.m. PST

Another vote for William Marshall as the best knight.

uglyfatbloke Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 8:14 a.m. PST

Sir James Douglas.

Personal logo Unlucky General Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 12:51 p.m. PST

Simon de Montfort

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 2:11 p.m. PST

I go with the Chevalier Bayard

jefritrout Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 5:09 p.m. PST

Another for Bayard

advocate25 Sep 2017 1:47 a.m. PST

Hard to beat William Marshal.

Is Roland allowed?

maverick290925 Sep 2017 12:56 p.m. PST

James Douglas and Robert the Bruce get my vote! Hard to beat the accomplishments of that duo!

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP26 Sep 2017 3:20 a.m. PST

William Marshal

Thomas Thomas Supporting Member of TMP26 Sep 2017 7:26 a.m. PST

Edward of Woodstock, the Black Prince, deserves mention:

"A knight of great courage standing near the experience to despair of defeating so mnany men, and exclaimed: 'Ah, we're beaten!' The prince, trusting in Christ and His mother the Virgin Mary, answered: 'You're a liar and a fool! How can you say we're beaten wile I'm still alive?'"

From Geoffrey le Baker: the Chronicle

His father Edward III also should make the field.

Both, like all great knights, were defined as much by their failings as there noble deeds.

We should assemble a field of nominees and then resolve the issue by a playoff. Points for battles won, deeds of arms, chivalerous acts. Points off for the inverse.

TomT

DukeWacoan Supporting Member of TMP Fezian10 Oct 2017 5:49 a.m. PST

Montfort

Black Prince

Hotspur

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2017 1:27 p.m. PST

Yet another vote for Willy M

Barin111 Oct 2017 11:14 a.m. PST

John of Bohemia

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..for all that he was nigh blind, when he understood the order of the battle, he said to them about him: 'Where is the lord Charles my son?' His men said: 'Sir, we cannot tell; we think he be fighting.' Then he said: 'Sirs, ye are my men, my companions and friends in this journey: I require you bring me so far forward, that I may strike one stroke with my sword.' They said they would do his commandment, and to the intent that they should not lose him in the press, they tied all their reins of their bridles each to other and set the king before to accomplish his desire, and so they went on their enemies. The lord Charles of Bohemia his son, who wrote himself king of Almaine and bare the arms, he came in good order to the battle; but when he saw that the matter went awry on their party, he departed, I cannot tell you which way. The king his father was so far forward that he strake a stroke with his sword, yea and more than four, and fought valiantly and so did his company; and they adventured themselves so forward, that they were there all slain, and the next day they were found in the place about the king, and all their horses tied each to other.

uglyfatbloke Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2017 10:06 a.m. PST

Giles D'Argentan…..courageous and daft in equal measure; what's not to like about that?

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