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Haitiansoldier21 Sep 2017 1:50 p.m. PST

Which battle do you think is better to game or study about? Just finished D-Day in the Pacific and loved it.

dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2017 2:55 p.m. PST

Saipan. Japanese tank attacks, mobile actions. Not pry them out and on to the next bunker

Rudysnelson21 Sep 2017 3:02 p.m. PST

Solitaire or two player systems?
Either system works but the Iwo two player system would be a challenge. IWo can be quick. For two player the best evaluation is to play two games and see which player does batter.
Saipan is a great two player game situation.

Gone Fishing21 Sep 2017 5:01 p.m. PST

Unless you're doing it solo I'd definitely go with Saipan. It was an interesting battle, often overlooked by more famous choices like Iwo, Guadacanal, Tarawa, etc.

The massive Japanese tank attacks are a draw. I think (doing this from memory) they were some of the biggest armoured attacks conducted by the IJA in the whole war. They were shredded in reality, but in a campaign the results could be different, and then there's the attraction of seeing all those Ha-Gos on the table top!

Starfury Rider22 Sep 2017 4:01 a.m. PST

There was a lot going on at Saipan. Army and Marine Divs shoulder to shoulder, Amtracs more properly fitted out for amphibious assault after the more impromptu use at Tarawa/Betio, lead by Amtanks. The Marines had Shermans and also flamethrowing Stuarts.

Not to suggest that any or all of these things were firsts, Marine Shermans and amtanks/tracs had already been blooded, but I think Saipan does represents the first time the US brought together the later familiar collection and concentration of forces required to unseat a Japanese island garrison.

You've also got the double whammy of an amphibious assault on Saipan, from which was launched an amphibious assault on Tinian. I think there were plenty of times that happened on a smaller scale, but I don't think there were any others involving Divisional level formations?

Gary

ScottS25 Sep 2017 8:32 a.m. PST

You could also look at Peleliu?

Mithmee26 Sep 2017 12:53 p.m. PST

Peleliu

That one was brutal; little water and rock solid ground so digging in was near impossible.

Saipan was far bigger island with around 30,000 Japanese on it.

Plus you could go for the New Guinea Campaign

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