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War Monkey20 Sep 2017 2:02 p.m. PST

So let us start with the new stuff Okay so surfing through on Google Plus and came across a great idea so I had to try it.

Elmer's Clear Washable Glue!

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For Water Effects!

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Looks great yeah! So no mixing or smells of resin for small jobs just a little of this and DONE!

Next is a new addition to "My Terrain" Project.

"Volcanic Steam Vents and Bubbling Mud Pool"

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So if you have been following this you can see more pictures here link

Doug
silo1313.blogspot.com

Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2017 2:13 p.m. PST

What a fabulous idea for inexpensive and easy to do water effects, thanks for posting.

zrunelord20 Sep 2017 3:00 p.m. PST

Looks good WM,
I think it would look good if spread on a base of wrinkled cellophane to create waves, waterfalls etc.

For the lava embed the small clear balls found in desiccant bags.

Thanks for posting
Z

jdpintex20 Sep 2017 3:45 p.m. PST

Now that is a find. Thank you.

Hobby lobby here I come!

dragon620 Sep 2017 3:47 p.m. PST

zrunelord great ideas!

War Monkey20 Sep 2017 3:48 p.m. PST

Nice tips there Z!

I'll kick them around and see how that pans out.

Personal logo Mardaddy Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2017 5:29 p.m. PST

Impressive work at your blog!

Greylegion20 Sep 2017 6:08 p.m. PST

Yes, I discovered this a little over a year ago. It's now a staple in my hobby & building supplies. Quick and easy.

CAPTAIN BEEFHEART20 Sep 2017 6:10 p.m. PST

I've never heard of the stuff but soon I will own some. Is it water soluble after drying, like the original Elmer's?

War Monkey20 Sep 2017 6:18 p.m. PST

It might get tacky on days the humidity is high from what I have heard, so after I put another layer on and all is good a dry, I'll coat it with water base polycrylic from Minwax it dries crystal clear. That should solve the problem.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2017 8:52 p.m. PST

Nice. Thanks.

zrunelord21 Sep 2017 3:15 a.m. PST

You're Welcome,

WM ,Thanks for clearing the Not waterproof when dry issue.

I personally mix Vallejo water effects / Gloss Varnish & White wood glue to good effect.It can easily be dyed with inks for murky water also.

Years ago I found something similar to yours at the stationers ,If I'm not mistaken it was a Japanese type paper glue. Haven't seen anything similar for ages , must look around.


Z

War Monkey21 Sep 2017 6:02 p.m. PST

Okay so be careful on how thick you pour this stuff it has been better then 24 hours and I'm still waiting for it to totally dry.

We kinda laid it on thick, about an eighth of an inch thick. (about 3mm)

So I'll keep everyone updated.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2017 6:19 p.m. PST

Oooo that looks soooooo gooood!

Dan

War Monkey22 Sep 2017 1:33 p.m. PST

48 hours have passed now, the outer edges are dry now and the inner sections are lightly tacky in the middle enough that one could leave finger prints.

It also dried much thinner then I thought it would have, much thinner, this leaves room for adding more layers where one can add color to the layers or thin paint as well and get a deeper looking effect.

Just remember we did put this on very thick which I think effects very much the dry time, I'm sure if I had put it on like you should have it would have dried in minutes. Lessons learned.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2017 2:38 p.m. PST

If it's waterbased perhaps you could add a layer with a teeny tiny amount of food dye (just a very slight hint of blue-green) to the next layer of glue.

And then, when it dries, seal that with another really thin layer of clear glue.

Dan

War Monkey22 Sep 2017 7:41 p.m. PST

Yup! That's kind of the plan I'm hoping for, we will just have to wait and see.

War Monkey23 Sep 2017 7:41 p.m. PST

Alright! 72 hours and it is finally dry!!

Wow did it shrink as well, like I had mentioned we put this stuff on rather thick like 1/8 inch (3mm) thick and it dried to less the a millimeter thick.

So everything that I thought would stay under the surface is now poking through the surface a lot.

Okay I can touch and poke at it and no finger prints it's really smooth to the touch and not tacky at all at the moment we have the AC on so brings the humidity down, no matter I will just coat it with water base polycrylic and be done with it.

So we will do another application and see what happens with it and we will keep moving o from there and I will continue posting g the results.

zrunelord23 Sep 2017 10:28 p.m. PST

WM
I think you better test it before. Touch dry does not mean waterproof!!!and you do have washable on the tub,which would mean that parents can easily wash it out of their kid's clothes or hair 😁😁😁

The fact that it has recessed means that the water content has evaporated, yes? And you will be putting it on again.

Even woodworking glue ,which is stronger than what you are using would have " suitable for outdoors" on it, if it is 100% waterproof when dry.

Unless of course you use spirit based ,like non yellowing boat varnish but you will have to do this outside because of the smell.

Don't want to see this project ruined.Our hobby is a trial of errors as you might well know.When people see my minis, they never realise the amount of failed experiments i've made.

Z

War Monkey25 Sep 2017 6:33 a.m. PST

Agree, there will be some testing before the next go around, if it feels tacky at all with rise in humidity, then it will get a coating of polycrylic.

Next experiment will be with "Gorilla Glue Clear" it's around the same price as the Elmer's.

Personal logo Zeelow Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 7:41 a.m. PST

Thanks.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2017 8:59 a.m. PST

Experiment with that one on a separate piece of cardboard and not on your actual terrain piece.

Dan

War Monkey25 Sep 2017 7:15 p.m. PST

Oh, Yes! The experiment with the Gorilla Glue will be on something that will be on a total throw away.

Doug

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP26 Sep 2017 10:45 a.m. PST

Damn, not that long ago I saw the Elmer's on DEEP discount; even a thin final layer could have real uses. wish I'D have thought of it then.

Will give it a test with your results in mind.

Thanks!

Doug

zrunelord30 Sep 2017 5:39 a.m. PST

Hello again WM,
Yesterday I bought a bottle of Gel Coat nail varnish.Seems to be acrylic based. It hardens to a brilliant hard shine & should not be water soluble. Only 1.95 euros.
Built in brush , so it is very easy to apply.
Haven't tried multiple coats yet, so I do not know whether several coats will wrinkle.

I think it is worth trying out.

Z

tshryock Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Sep 2017 6:19 a.m. PST

I"ve done a lot of experimenting with various products and the best one I've come across is called "Triple Thick" available at most craft stores. It's similar to mod-podge but doesn't stay tacky and creates some really nice effects.

This illustrates my whole stream-building project, but if you scroll toward the bottom, you'll see the Triple Thick in action.

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It dries clear -- some of the shots were taken before it had completely set up.

War Monkey30 Sep 2017 11:46 a.m. PST

Nice find! That stuff looks like it can save a lot of work and time.

How is it against shrinkage?

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2017 2:20 a.m. PST

If someone would come up with an absolutely clear version of the glue gun sticks, and if those were low temp and laid down flat like water when hot, that would be about the fastest shrink-proof option you could have.

Glue gun stuff doesn't shrink, that I know of.

Dan

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