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Early morning writer15 Sep 2017 7:57 a.m. PST

TMP link

And here is my stab at identifying the various figures:

Left to right, top to bottom -
unknown, German, British
American, French, unknown, Austrian or Russian?
Italian, British Ambassador?, Japanese

Please correct me where I'm wrong and identify those I did not.

Deleted duplicate post below, and this is the European command pack. Maybe the first unknown for the Armed Civilians and the second for the Austrians if the other is Russian (probably)

ChrisBrantley15 Sep 2017 11:11 a.m. PST

If these figures are meant to correspond to historical personages..I'd say the top left "unknown" is Marine Captain Jack Myer, and the center row "unkown" is the Rev. Francis Gamewell, director of fortifications for the legation defense and member of the "Fighting Parsons"

Not sure who the U.S. marine (2d row, left with rifle) is meant to be though. Maybe Medal of Honor winner Pvt. Daniel Daley calling for some help ;-) (he won the medal for single-handling holding his position against an attacking force of 200 Boxers).

Of course, I could be absolutely wrong.

oldjarhead115 Sep 2017 6:50 p.m. PST

I assumed from first view that it was "handsome Jack" Myers and Dan Daley.

Early morning writer16 Sep 2017 5:43 a.m. PST

Makes sense, Russ of Old Glory was a Marine. So, again.

US Marine Captain Myer, German, British
US Marine Pvt. Daley, French, Rev. Gamewell (?), Russian
Italian, British ambassador (?), Japanese

Which leaves out the Austrians, unless that last (?) isn't the British ambassador.

Cloudy19 Sep 2017 9:03 p.m. PST

The Japanese is likely Colonel Shiba. The German may be Field Marshal von Waldersee but the trouble with identifying 15mm figures is that unless they are sculpted from a famous photograph, they could be just about anyone. A "personality" pack should list the personalities included…

Early morning writer20 Sep 2017 4:40 a.m. PST

Well, it is listed as a 'command pack' not a personality pack. I'm just wanting to ensure I – and others – know which figures go to which nation. Getting the figures identified to specific figures is just a bonus.

oldjarhead120 Sep 2017 9:27 p.m. PST

I believe it is actually listed as great powers personalities.

Early morning writer21 Sep 2017 6:24 p.m. PST

oldjarhead, I stand corrected, on the actual site they are, indeed, labeled personalities. So, I guess, yes, we should get a listing of the personalities. Though we are half way there it seems – and the quest is part of the fun.

oldjarhead122 Sep 2017 6:02 a.m. PST

I just wish they had sculpted he German figures as Von Kettler in civilian clothes.

Early morning writer22 Sep 2017 7:12 p.m. PST

oldjarhead, perhaps you have reasons for wanting von Ketteler in civilian clothes (perhaps from the movie 55 Days at Peking? Though perhaps you are thinking of Baron Sergei Ivanoff?? I don't recall Ketteler being represented in the movie much) but he hadn't been a soldier for quiet some years so he would only have been in civilian clothes before the siege. And during the siege, well, he was dead, died June 20, the day the siege proper started. His death was one important catalyst in the siege itself.

Therefore I don't think the figure is meant to represent him since the whole range is meant for the siege of Peking.


I think the German figure in the pack may represent Oberleutnant Alfred von Soden who it seems commanded the German military detachment during the siege.

I found a very cool thread with photos of the German contingent in Peking:

link

Clearly, much of the See Battalion wore a cap resembling the sailor caps of the era but were clearly See Battalion from the shoulder boards. I intend to use some of the sailor figures, Austrian probably, to represent some of my German legation troops. Further down there is a photo showing them wearing picklehaubes. I guess the OG25 figures represent them with the top piece of the picklehaub removed – perhaps meant to hold a feather or horsehair crest in full dress (??). And because of that, I'm not entirely convinced the hat discussed as being an Italian bersaglieri hat is such a thing, might just be a crest piece – though I could be very wrong on that point.

All in all, I think the link is a cool find for those of interested in the Boxer rebellion.

Who can name the other figures not already named in this thread?

So far, if the surmises above are correct we have Shiba, von Soden, Myers, Daley, and Gamewell. That's half way there.

oldjarhead122 Sep 2017 8:50 p.m. PST

Early Morning Writer, you are correct was thinking of the movie, Sergei was who I was thinking of. I looked closer at the figures and I believe that one of the figures is Sir Hector MacDonald himself (the mustache certainly looks right)

SgtGuinness Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2017 9:42 a.m. PST

@Early morning writer, that's an awrsome link. Thank you!
Cheers,
JB

Early morning writer28 Sep 2017 9:52 p.m. PST

SgtG, it was a cool find. Glad you enjoyed. Let's hope there are more things to find.

mrinku30 Sep 2017 7:55 p.m. PST

The middle figure on the bottom row could well be old General Flashman!

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