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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2017 4:35 p.m. PST

"I was saddened to hear of the demise of Spartan Games, the company behind the wonderful Dystopian Wars and hope the future bears well for all the staff there.

The Dystopian Wars is one of my favourite games, though to be honest I've not played for a while…"
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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2017 4:35 p.m. PST

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Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2017 9:05 p.m. PST

Oh, no! They did such beautiful work, too. I do think Dystopian Legions wasn't the best product line. If they'd done it in 28mm or 15mm, it probably have done better.

Frostie12 Sep 2017 11:06 p.m. PST

Javelin98,

Agree, I really liked Dystopian Wars and their earlier fantasy version.

But Dystopian Legions was non starter, way too big in scale. If they had gone for a 15mm large skirmish/battle system they would have had more success I think, even 10mm, as thier Planetfall would have been better.

Shame though a good line of miniatures have now gone

Personal logo J Womack 94 Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2017 6:42 a.m. PST

If Dystopian Legions had been either 15mm or 28mm, I would have bought hundreds of dollars myself. I think you have hit the nail on the head there.

But the nail in their coffin was HALO. What I am sure were pretty hefty licensing agreement fees, added to limited marketing strategy and a relatively low margin industry… doomed. It has happened to other companies before.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2017 10:54 a.m. PST

Really sad….


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Covert Walrus13 Sep 2017 11:27 a.m. PST

I'm going to quote the Man Battlestations blog here – " A game is never dead as long as rules and players exist, or rather, a game is as dead as players want it to be".

Plus which, let's not rule it out that the IP and such might be purchased and renewed ( Preferably by a better management team, let's be honest ). It's happened before.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2017 5:46 p.m. PST

I wonder what the HALO license cost them. I can't imagine that licensing an IP that belongs to Microsoft would come cheap.

RudyNelson14 Sep 2017 6:33 a.m. PST

Going from individual packs at a reasonable cost to only battle group sets at a very high cost made it hard to stock in depth with that product line.
In the Southeast USA, the most popular was the naval system, significantly fewer games of the land system was played at shows. The over sized D. legions system as was mentioned earlier was a 'none starter'.

DLIinVSF15 Sep 2017 2:58 a.m. PST

Only just heard this.It's always a sad day to see a company go under. But I think some of it may of been brought on by trying to change the market rather than going along with it. I think super sizing was an unwise move. I'd of bought a few of their work if in 28mm.

Hope their staff find work soon and the owners a new path soon.

Covert Walrus15 Sep 2017 1:14 p.m. PST

I wonder what the HALO license cost them. I can't imagine that licensing an IP that belongs to Microsoft would come cheap.

True, Javelin old chum. And if it was anything like the Crimsons Skies and Battletech contract with FASA, full of legal fishhooks as well.

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