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marshalGreg11 Sep 2017 6:58 a.m. PST

I am having difficulty finding the specifics for the US federal infantry ( not state) of the 2nd Division of the V corps.
I understand by 1862 they were in the L Blue kirseys pants ( no longer in the blues).
What I cannot determine is if they were using the Hardee style hat ( like the iron brigade and not slouch with one side turned up) or had for go them by then.
My TMP search has also turned up little.
thanks for any leads


ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Sep 2017 9:30 a.m. PST

From my stint as a reenactor doing US Regulars, the information we had indicates that the only time they wore the Hardee Hat, frock coat and shoulder scales on campaign was the combined battalion which fought at 1st Bull Run. After that, all their finery went into storage and they spent the rest of the war wearing sack coats and forage caps (and light blue kersey trousers) like most of the volunteer units.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2017 9:49 a.m. PST

I put mine in Hardee hats just so I know who they are on the table.

Personal logo ACWBill Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2017 11:25 a.m. PST

The uniform described is the same as the Iron Brigade. In fact I have used my Iron Brigade figures, with different standards for the regulars at Manasssas.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP11 Sep 2017 11:25 a.m. PST

I agree with both – you can make them look distinctive by using the Hardee hat, but by 1862 pretty much all the regulars wore the forage cap in the field

marshalGreg11 Sep 2017 2:20 p.m. PST

Thanks guys


rorymac11 Sep 2017 7:17 p.m. PST

I use troops in forage cap, frock coat and knapsack to give a mix of campaign look with the more formal look of the frock with more hard corps discipline with the knapsack. I know many of the troops were raw recruits but for the most part the regulars did yeoman service in the east and the west. Just wish I could score a copy of the book on Sykes's regular troops at a reasonable price.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Sep 2017 4:12 a.m. PST

Lots of troops wore the frock coats all through the war.

Clays Russians21 Sep 2017 6:34 a.m. PST

"Lots of troops wore the frock coats all through the war."
That is true, sometimes as a regimental practice but more frequently, individual would wear them until they fell apart because they loved how they looked and managed to "finagle" a new one. Which probably wasn't hard to do.

TKindred Supporting Member of TMP22 Sep 2017 2:38 a.m. PST

Images of US Regulars in the field show them in fatigue blouses and caps, as that was the prescribed uniform for campaign and fatigue duty.

Officers of company grade re also wearing some manner of fatigue blouse, and a hat, rather than the cap, though without the side pinned up, etc. More like a black civilian hat.

I'll see if I can locate the images I have, or link to others for you.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Sep 2017 6:08 a.m. PST

The reenactment unit I belong to portrays the 61st New York Infantry and we found a series of photos taken for each company just before the 1864 campaign began and every last soldier is wearing a frock coat. Not sure if they wore them once the campaign started. Probably depended on how warm the day was when they broke camp :)

marshalGreg22 Sep 2017 12:42 p.m. PST

Thanks guys.
To be clear I am looking for info regarding the federal infantry (I.E 2nd Federal Infantry regiment of 2nd DIV of the V Corps) and not the state infantry ( I.E. 61st New York).

Conclusion so far was the standard dress: Fatigue cap, blue frock and the lt blue Kersi pants.

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