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Fred Cartwright03 Sep 2017 2:02 p.m. PST

Does anyone have a good handle on what late German vehicles were seen in ambush scheme? I have been trawling through period photos and so far have fairly convincing evidence for the following:-
Tiger II, Jagdtiger, Sturmtiger, Panther and Jagdpanther, Jagdpanzer IV, Hetzer and a single pic of a Brummbar. So far not found any pics showing it on Panzer IV, Stug, 250 and 251 series half tracks, 234 series armoured cars, Luchs, Marders, any flakpanzers or any soft skins. Anyone seen any pics of ambush camo on the not list?

dwight shrute03 Sep 2017 2:22 p.m. PST

stugs and panzers 4's here ; link

Hornswoggler03 Sep 2017 8:17 p.m. PST

Jagdpanther is contentious…

251 has been discussed a few times here and elsewhere:
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Hornswoggler03 Sep 2017 10:32 p.m. PST

Note those network54 links I posted ARE correct, there just seems to be an outage (intermittent) on that website at the moment…

Fred Cartwright04 Sep 2017 2:40 a.m. PST

Thanks for the links. Shame a lot of the picture links have been hit by the Photobucket charging policy. I wonder how many people actually paid.

deephorse04 Sep 2017 1:23 p.m. PST

Some years ago I built the Hasegawa Wirbelwind and did a nice job (if I say so myself) of completing it in an ambush pattern scheme. A while later I bought the Nuts & Bolts book on the Wirbelwind/Ostwind and was disappointed to discover that they never carried that scheme.

Last week I got a copy of the Tankograd publication on the Opel Blitz 3-tonner. Many of these trucks are photographed with two and three tone camouflage, but none have the ambush pattern.

Hornswoggler05 Sep 2017 9:15 p.m. PST

You know the saying "never say never…" when it comes to German kit, but I am pretty sure not even the Germans (despite their penchant for over-engineering, lack of standardisation and elaborate solutions for non-problems eg Zimmerit) would waste time applying a complicated ambush camo to mainly rear echelon vehicles like trucks.

The "official" Hinterhalt was a factory applied scheme for a limited range of vehicles. It then seems to have been copied onto a wider range of vehicles through field depot applications of variable quality, hence the examples of it turning up on things like halftracks.

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