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RWindle03 Sep 2017 9:50 a.m. PST

So, I have TSATF, and By Battalion, Volley Fire. Where does 800 Fighting Englishmen fit in? How is it different?

YogiBearMinis Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2017 9:51 a.m. PST

I know Woodland Scenics makes four 100" x 50" grass mats plus a desert mat, and War-Zone makes terrain boards in both 8'x4' and 8'x5' sizes, but who else makes the larger sizes of battle mats?

I know the Cigar Box Battle people make oversized 6'x4' mats, but I am specifically asking about larger sizes than that.

JeffGrein Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2017 11:23 a.m. PST

Deep Cut Studios has made me the following:

12' x 6' with 8" squares
17' x 5.5' with 7.5" hexes

They were a pleasure to work with as well. They are in Europe so the shipping is a bit extra but I had no problem getting what I wanted in a pretty reasonable amount of time.

Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2017 11:59 a.m. PST

Not sure how this thread became about terrain cloths, but thanks Jeff, for the info on Deep Cut Studios.
To return to RWindle's question, I own and have played 800 Fighting Englishmen. It uses the same unit sizes and individual basing as TSATF, but each twenty figure unit represents a battalion instead of a platoon. No re-basing is necessary and most mechanics are the same as well. I am not familiar with By Battalion, Volley Fire, but if it is an early Larry Brom rules set it probably does not use TSATF units at its base.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Sep 2017 2:28 p.m. PST

TMP is gettinG very creaky and occasionally a bug likes to smash two threads together!

Our club regularly does group buys of great Reet's felt that is 6' wide and as long as you care to cut it. Unlike craft felt it comes in speckled kind of colors that look great by themselves. There are a couple greens (I like the color called Relish). And it feels smoother and less prone to sagging. Very cheap.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2017 3:12 p.m. PST

Try a fabric shop.

RWindle03 Sep 2017 4:29 p.m. PST

Thanks, Nick. Is melee combat handled the same as TSATF? By Battalion uses the Fast Play rules.

Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 7:37 p.m. PST

RWindle, reading the rules, Brom suggests temporarily rebasing the figures four to a base. Firing and hand to hand are done by base rolling one D6 per base. The rules always felt a little klugey to me, neither fish nor foul. You're probably better off with the By Battalion rules for large scale games.

Mad Guru Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2017 1:22 p.m. PST


Just to give some more info in addition to what my good buddy Nick has already said about 800FE… for me, as a longtime TSATF player who enjoys big battles, the best aspects of 800FE are the streamlined ways it handles unit activation -- for movement and firing -- morale, and command-&-control.

A couple of years ago I was prepping and play-testing my own bastardized combo version of TSATF & 800FE for a big convention game and did a post discussing some aspects of both. It's mostly focused on the "Command & Control" differences, but compares and contrats some other elements as well.

It interested please stop by and check it out here:


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