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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Aug 2017 6:07 a.m. PST


Sorry guys, but Dolly can do no wrong.

Stryderg25 Aug 2017 11:06 a.m. PST

While I found the review to be an interesting read, it was also biased and a bit condescending.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP25 Aug 2017 11:14 a.m. PST

Indeed. As many people have commented here on other topics, it is ally fantasy entertainment (see "Hamilton" as another example. I saw a very similar event in Edinburgh 30 years ago called"Hail Caledonia."

goragrad25 Aug 2017 12:33 p.m. PST

The worldview of the author definitely colored the review…

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP25 Aug 2017 12:39 p.m. PST

Many people are easily offended. Some look for things to be offended by. I don't think Dolly forces anyone to attend these shows?

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP25 Aug 2017 3:51 p.m. PST

Not planning to attend before or after the review, although I do like sweet lemonade.

It is truly a great nation where you can be both oppressed and part of the ruling elite at the same time.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP25 Aug 2017 7:24 p.m. PST

I never got past the first sentence.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member25 Aug 2017 10:34 p.m. PST

I read the article and was mildly annoyed. Let's not forget that "Dixie" (the song) and a LOT of other "minstrel shows" were products of the North. Northerners from Northern states. The Old South did not have a monopoly on these sort of patronizing entertainments and what we now consider offensive stereotypes. (Frankly, this entire show sounds like the worst sort of middle America Disneylandish rubbish, but who's expecting a history lesson here?)

I shouldn't wonder that Elvis might not have created a similar travesty in time, had he lived.

But still … was it fun?

Ceterman Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2017 9:38 a.m. PST

I'm sure the food sucks as much as this stupid show.

Dwindling Gravitas Inactive Member26 Aug 2017 12:42 p.m. PST

The worldview of the author definitely colored the review…

I see what you did there :-)

skinkmasterreturns27 Aug 2017 2:52 a.m. PST

I dont think the article is about race at all. I think its more about sado-masochism. Twice?

Mardaddy Inactive Member27 Aug 2017 7:19 p.m. PST

Oh, it IS about race:

"I even contemplated hijacking the flag relay so that our side couldn't win, but then I remembered I was one black person among hundreds of white people in a place called "Dixie Stampede" in 2017, and I emotionlessly passed the flag without a fuss."

You gotta be kidding me? Who taught you to be THAT fearful of the potential for racial violence? I'd call it mental abuse.

Khusrau28 Aug 2017 3:30 a.m. PST

I suspect they were taught to be that fearful by the regular killings of unarmed black people by police. Among other things. YMMV of course.

I only know what I saw in Arizona and Texas, and what I saw tended to confirm what the writer was saying – essentially that you shouldn't simply sanitise the ACW by stripping out any references to race or slavery, and making it into nostalgic family entertainment.

It's like talking about Nazi Germany and focusing on the Hugo Boss uniforms while not mentioning the death camps.

Mardaddy Inactive Member28 Aug 2017 6:21 a.m. PST

You are actually making my case not teaching PERSPECTIVE is wrong on so many levels.

Not just teaching, "this happened," but WRONG to be teaching, "this happened and at any moment now it is likely to happen to you so be careful every day."

Do aborigine's Down Under still now, today, tread oh, so lightly in fear of genocide or being put into camps?

Individuals lacking or never being taught perspective might, and your average bloke like me but in Oz would be saying exactly what I am, "You gotta be kidding me."

Khusrau28 Aug 2017 2:43 p.m. PST

Aborigines down under tread carefully, for fear of being boiled alive in police wagons, being killed in police cells, and of being detained for no reason whatsoever.

Start by looking up Domagee and Palm Island, then move on to the teenager run down by a white-man (guess how much time he did for that?) – then there are endless examples of blackfellas mysteriously committing suicide in cells. In fact there was even a Royal Inquiry into Black Deaths in Custody. So yeah, Aboriginals do have a significant and well founded fear of violence, abuse and mistreatment by officialdom.

Care to make any other arguments?

Khusrau28 Aug 2017 2:51 p.m. PST

Oh, I should have posted some links:






There's a whole load of others, but that should give you a flavour. There's also a range of discrimination issues in employment, entry to premises, the implementation of various measures supposedly for their own protection in the NT Intervention, etc.

ITALWARS Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member28 Aug 2017 3:27 p.m. PST

sorry guys but i strongly prefer Miley Cyrus..from every point of view :-)

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