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historygamer24 Aug 2017 10:49 a.m. PST

Someone just posted on the official site that they are known and working, but if so, why no announcement of who they are?

Whomever have Hcon has a lot of work ahead of them and it is less than a year, out. Even less time for CWs.

Someone else posted all the CDs had to resign with the installation of the new BoD, per internal HMGS rules.

Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

historygamer24 Aug 2017 2:15 p.m. PST

So apparently there is a list of names but the BoD hasn't moved on them yet. Hcon less than a year out, and FI approaching a year out. Cold Wars is a little over six months out.

Is that creating a problem for CW?

Hcon is/was/hopes to be the big one and the BoD is giving the new convention director less 10 months to start planning and assembling a new staff for a new location in a facility that is currently being refurbished. That's if they make a decision by next month. But what's the hurry, right?

For all that talk about a new day in HMGS, it sure seems like old times to me.

Ottoathome24 Aug 2017 3:04 p.m. PST

From what I have heard no one has been named Hcon director yet. I have heard they don't want to make a decision till after Fall-In. I know of one person who has been approached and said "no thanks."

47Ronin25 Aug 2017 8:49 a.m. PST

I'd rather see someone fix all the typos in the Fall In PEL.

Seriously, when the Board has something to announce, they'll announce it.

Now, about those typos….

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2017 6:48 a.m. PST

CDs?

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Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2017 6:11 a.m. PST

Seriously, isn't it a little early for panty twisting about next years conventions?

historygamer28 Aug 2017 4:31 a.m. PST

First off, I have no idea what kind of underwear you wear, nor do I care. Whatever floats your boat Bowman.

Second, a casual look at a calendar would show that Cold Wars is less than seven months out. Which also means it has no other staff either. I'm also pretty sure you are aware of the advanced schedules HMGS uses too. So you think this new model of demanding all convention directors resign now with each new BoD is a good idea? There are so many things self evidently wrong with this that even the simplest should see them.

HMGS struggles with their schedules and planning and this helps how?

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2017 5:00 a.m. PST

I'm not the one whose panties are knotted about this topic, therefore the state of my boxers is irrelevant, thank you.

I'm currently working on my ACW game for Fall-in. It requires a lot of terrain to be made and a lot more organization and planning to be done. I can't really get too panicked about what happens in 7 months. It appears that the others who bothered to reply to this thread feel the same. If you want to have the role of HMGS's Cassandra then go for it. I'm too busy.

Look we seem to have different priorities. You will be driving to Fall-In worrying about the CD's of future conventions and how many Zombie games will be in the PEL. I will worry about my game and how my friends will enjoy it. I also worry about the migration of deer over the highways in the mountains of NY and PA in the fall, as I'd like to arrive alive. To each their own.

95th Division Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2017 7:14 a.m. PST

If I may ask, what game are you running Bowman?

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2017 7:51 a.m. PST

I'm trying to do Monocacy 1864, Frederick, Md in 28mm. So need way more river… about 12' worth, train tracks, and custom built foot bridge and train bridge. Then I have to mooch some more rebel troops and cannon from friends. Yikes. Also, to try and arrange for a good scenario where Wallace and his troops aren't overwhelmed by the Confederates by turn 1. wink

The usual GM fretting.

But I have a lot of time still.

95th Division Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2017 9:17 a.m. PST

That sounds interesting. Good luck with the prep.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2017 9:45 a.m. PST

Thanks. The battle is not that far from you.

TheKing30 Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2017 1:21 p.m. PST

I will worry about my game and how my friends will enjoy it

Is this the version of Monocacy where the Terminator Marines teleport in and wipe out the Confederate Tau?

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2017 2:41 p.m. PST

huh?

historygamer29 Aug 2017 4:12 a.m. PST

Well Bowman, for someone who has never volunteered a second of their time to help work an HMGS convention, you are never short of volunteering your opinions on what others should do. Your dismissal of the current situation shows just how ill-informed you are. Like many who attend, you have no real appreciation of the amount of work that goes into it all, so what is a couple less months to get it organized to you, right?

And as far as mind-reading you might want to try another profession. Just as for many decades now, I'm running a game (or two), and hope to have some time to volunteer to the convention as well. But I am glad to hear you are finally jumping in to run a game as well. Best of luck to you and your game.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP29 Aug 2017 5:30 a.m. PST

Well Bowman, for someone who has never volunteered a second of their time to help work an HMGS convention, you are never short of volunteering your opinions on what others should do.

I thought we already established that you are wrong on this account.

Like many who attend, you have no real appreciation of the amount of work that goes into it all, so what is a couple less months to get it organized to you, right?

No I do appreciate how much work goes into this. I'm just not concerned this far out. So apparently is everyone else, judging from the lack of support your concern has gotten.

But I am glad to hear you are finally jumping in to run a game as well.

Finally? Again, stop with the stupid unsupported claims. They detract from any worthwhile comments you do make.

I now consider this closed. The CDs will be announced when the BOD sees fit. The sky is not falling. And you are no Cassandra.

historygamer29 Aug 2017 6:37 a.m. PST

No, you said you did "something" at a recent HMGS con, but never said what you did. I left it go since it seemed to show you never have actually volunteered as staff at a con. Your lack of concern about timelines seems to re-enforce the idea you really don't know much about putting together an HMGS convention.

This is also re-enforced by your flippant "this far out" comment. By my calendar Cold Wars is only six months out. Based on past years, they should start calling for games shortly after FI ends. I guess your thoughts on " this far out" and people who have actually worked the cons are a bit different. Perhaps you didn't see some of the posts on the official group either.

And do you really think many/most of the people here have worked the cons and understand the timelines either? I don't.

I was not aware I was making any unsupported claims. You said you were running a game, and I said that was great. You also seemed to imply I wasn't, which hasn't been true for decades. Have you been running games at HMGS cons for decades? I have, since the late 80s. Have you?

I would note that you seldom let a post of my go by without commenting even if you have little relevant to say. I'm not the one that brought feminine underwear into the dialogue either. While I am flattered by your attention, it might help if you had something either based on actual experience and work you've done on behalf of the organization to back up your oft posted opinions regarding HMGS cons. That way you might have a better idea of the significance of shorting a convention director so many months of preparation. That is, unless you think that they do these volunteer jobs full time which they don't.

"I now consider this closed."

We can only hope. :-)

Rotundo29 Aug 2017 7:19 a.m. PST

Bowman smuggles Canadian maple syrup to my children at great peril to The North American Trade Agreement. I for one consider him a hero of our time. I hear he also smuggled coffee. We all know how important coffee is to any military endeavors.

TheKing30 Supporting Member of TMP29 Aug 2017 2:25 p.m. PST

No, you said you did "something" at a recent HMGS con, but never said what you did. I left it go since it seemed to show you never have actually volunteered as staff at a con. Your lack of concern about timelines seems to re-enforce the idea you really don't know much about putting together an HMGS convention.

@Historygamer – I'm not trying to be rude by jumping in, but I'll be the first to tell you the Bowman does ALLOT at the three cons. He's run tournaments – WAB, WECW, Saga, WH WWI, etc. He's also put on and managed many games – Bolt Action, Hail Caesar and Black Powder just to name a few. Each of these games and tournaments require allot of resources and planning. I've yet to see him not deliver a fantastic game. And this is only over the past 10 years that I've known him.

Bowman is what I would consider a pillar of the gaming community. I don't know if he's ever volunteered at a convention but that definitely doesn't diminish all the games he's put on over the years.

Hope this helps.

TK30

historygamer30 Aug 2017 4:09 a.m. PST

I'm not diminishing that at all, and as you said, that is a great asset to the conventions. But, it is not the same as actually working staff at an HMGS conventions and understanding the time requirements (in both man hours put in and calendar time needed to plan and organize), etc.

Remember, the topic of this thread – which he poo-pooed as unimportant – was about management and staffing of the conventions. I would point out again that Cold Wars is less than six months away and has no convention director. None.

I urge you both to look at the official HMGS group where a former (and one of the best) convention directors recently posted his thoughts and what this all means. I'll defer to him as he has run a lot more HMGS conventions than all of us put together.

And, yes, I am more focused on the organization and long term events than the short term or my own games. Not that there is anything wrong with either, but then again, I didn't feel the need to put one or the other down in my posts.

TheKing30 Supporting Member of TMP30 Aug 2017 8:12 a.m. PST

I'm not diminishing that at all, and as you said, that is a great asset to the conventions. But, it is not the same as actually working staff at an HMGS conventions and understanding the time requirements (in both man hours put in and calendar time needed to plan and organize), etc.

I understand. I think that we, as a group, need to stop making judgements on the value that others bring to the hobby we all enjoy. Not everyone is a convention director, nor is everyone a game master.

Remember, the topic of this thread which he poo-pooed as unimportant was about management and staffing of the conventions. I would point out again that Cold Wars is less than six months away and has no convention director. None.

I think we all need to step back for a second. The current BoD has done more to improve the health of our conventions than any Board in recent times. They're making incredible strides to clean up the mess made by the "next levelers".

Keeping this in mind, I have a hard time believing that the Board is sitting around doing nothing. Silence does not equate to passiveness. If you're that concerned, maybe ask the Board members at Fall In?

And, yes, I am more focused on the organization and long term events than the short term or my own games. Not that there is anything wrong with either, but then again, I didn't feel the need to put one or the other down in my posts.

It's a good thing to be concerned about the health of our conventions. Hopefully that concern gives people the benefit of the doubt and the room to make changes even if those changes result in a mistake. It's kinda like making an omelet you can't make the omelet without breaking the eggs. Keep this in mind everyone makes mistakes. It's not the mistake that will define the person(s) it's the reaction to the mistake.

TheKing30 Supporting Member of TMP31 Aug 2017 7:49 p.m. PST

You'll be happy to know the new directors have been announced. I just got the email a few minutes ago.

Ember52 Supporting Member of TMP31 Aug 2017 11:03 p.m. PST

Thanks, King. Hadn't noticed the e-mail until you mentioned it.

Bob Liebl Inactive Member01 Sep 2017 5:54 p.m. PST

"I think we all need to step back for a second. The current BoD has done more to improve the health of our conventions than any Board in recent times. They're making incredible strides to clean up the mess made by the "next levelers".

Thank you King 30. In my 30 years of membership, we've had some good BODs, weak ones, and some out right stupid ones. This is one of the better ones.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2017 10:23 a.m. PST

TheKing30 Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2017 11:58 a.m. PST

Hey Bowman….

How about….

Keep Calm and PAINT ON Baby!!!

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2017 3:10 p.m. PST

Yep. Just came in from varnishing my rivers. Always working, baby!

TheKing30 Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2017 11:34 a.m. PST

I've been sick for four weeks now. I'm finally feeling better. I'll be painting today. Probably some Space Marines for Monocacy.

Ember52 Supporting Member of TMP03 Sep 2017 5:15 p.m. PST

King,

Glad you're on the mend. If you're painting those Space Marines, you must have finished the Tau (in histortically accurate shades of butternut and grey)…

Bob Liebl Inactive Member05 Sep 2017 3:33 a.m. PST

Keep Calm and PAINT ON Baby!!!

vagamer63 Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 4:56 p.m. PST

Interesting that two former BOD members are now CD's, seems there's a word for that kind of thing!

Ember52 Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 5:34 p.m. PST

I know that Heather's served on the BOD, but wasn't aware that Joby or Dan had been on the Board previously. Might just be lack of background knowledge on my part.

Also don't think that the overlap is a new development, as a number of CD's have also served on the BOD. Just sayin'.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2017 6:08 p.m. PST

Interesting that two former BOD members are now CD's, seems there's a word for that kind of thing!

What do you care? You're not coming anymore.

Remember this? "I know I've attended my last HMGS show, and just about everyone in this corner of VA. feels the same….."

There is a word for the kind of thing you are doing too. It's called trolling.

TheKing30 Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2017 12:30 p.m. PST

There is a word for the kind of thing you are doing too. It's called trolling.

Oh, I thought you were referring to his boycott…..

Remember this? "I know I've attended my last HMGS show, and just about everyone in this corner of VA. feels the same….."

Ploogak24 Sep 2017 5:24 p.m. PST

To correct vagamer63's post, Heather is the only Convention Director for 2018 that has previously sat on the Board. For those that are familiar with her professional experience she's more than qualified to run a show. I'm excited to be working with her.

Joby

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