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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2017 5:23 a.m. PST

I'm trying to find a dutch cavalry regiment to paint for Ramilles.

Thats not easy,

I have the Hall plates, I have another OOB that shows the uniform colors. and I got maverick models that has the highest number WSS flasgs.

Getting those 3 to match up isn't easy.
I found the Hesse-Hombrug regiment in the OOB, it shows the regiment with gray coats and red facings, which seem to be the most common for Dutch cavalry.
I find the Hesse-Homburg in my hall plates, It only shows the uniform of the trooper,(so no help in officers and cornets) And it only shows a trooper for 1697, and it shows it with blue uniform. So doesn't match my OOB colors. On top of this, the standard shown in the hall plates don't match the flag on Maverick models(that also writes it as Hoombrug)

And this seems to be standard for much of my hunt for a Dutch regiment to paint.

dbf167618 Aug 2017 6:27 a.m. PST

Here is a painting from a somewhat later period that shows what is perhaps the Hessen Homberg in Blue and red.

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GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Aug 2017 7:40 a.m. PST

Much of the source material dates from 1690's, often as battle prizes taken by the French, hence Hall (and many others) comes up with references from that date quite often.

Uniforms and even flags, seem to have changed a lot during the period 1690-1720, not just the Dutch, and I think a lot of accurate information is now lost. What is left is often supposition or outright guesswork – based on limited knowledge but still sometimes the best that can be done.

9th Maine Inactive Member18 Aug 2017 10:25 a.m. PST

I don't know what OOB with uniform colors you are using, but I believe you are confusing Hesse-Homburg with Hornberg, two different regiments . The standards on the Maverick site are for Hornberg, not Hesse-Homburg. The uniform for Hornburg was grey faced red, while Hesse-Homburg was blue.

seneffe28 Aug 2017 4:05 p.m. PST

dbf1676- I think from the uniform colours and especially the silver laced belts, that the regiment depicted is probably the Gardes te Paard in the 1740s. The artist died in 1750 so it can't be later than that!

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