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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 10:00 a.m. PST

So, which ACW armies do you collect and/or game with the most? And, most importantly, WHY the choice?

1) Union mostly?
2) Confederate mostly?
3) Prety even?
4) Dinosaurs, aliens, or some other obscure ACW faction that has been purged from the history books?* :)

Dan
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Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 10:01 a.m. PST

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Stew art Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 10:13 a.m. PST

That is pretty funny…


I have more USA than CSA.

Disco Joe17 Aug 2017 10:18 a.m. PST

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Micman Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 10:26 a.m. PST

I am building even set of armies for Regimental F&F. My older figs were rebased for a DBA variant, they are also pretty even. All 15mm.

I was going to use GHQ figs 10mm but the local group wanted 15mm so I so sold the ones I had. Again even sides.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 10:41 a.m. PST

I have a pretty large collection of Union and Confederate armies in 25mm. No one else was collecting 25s, so I built both sides.

138SquadronRAF Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 10:48 a.m. PST

1 Only

I do have naval vessels for each side though.

Might do both sides in 10mm at some stage

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 10:50 a.m. PST

Both

I build generic brigades and have more Confederate divisions painted up than Union. All are fictitious except for my Iron Brigade.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 11:00 a.m. PST

Both sides in large numbers, entirely generic in nature.

MajorB17 Aug 2017 11:01 a.m. PST

Both.

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 11:09 a.m. PST

All 20mm – Mostly even in infantry with slightly more Union artillery/command (because of smaller brigades) and Confederate cavalry.

Total counts Union 778 and Confederate 707

JimDuncanUK17 Aug 2017 11:17 a.m. PST

I always collect both sides, sometimes more than two, in any period I collect.

Piquet Rules17 Aug 2017 11:24 a.m. PST

Both sides, even number of units so that any scenario or campaign situation can be handled. Generic units/flags.

Piquet Rules17 Aug 2017 11:24 a.m. PST

Also – no dinosaurs. Although I am contemplating a zombie pirate Zouave regiment.

Cement Head17 Aug 2017 11:32 a.m. PST

6mm Adler figures in vast quantities. I think 6mm does the best job of representing "mass" if mounted properly. I have equal numbers of Union and Confederate. They are fairly generic except for command stands.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 12:02 p.m. PST

I have pretty equal numbers of both but when I finish basing my last lot I think I will have slightly more Union

I also have a few odd units like French sailors that I add to various scenarios now and again

firebase201217 Aug 2017 12:27 p.m. PST

I have Stonewall Jackson's army of the Shenandoah in 10mm and Lees army of northern Virginia but going to sell them as I'm afraid if I deploy any models of General Jackson or General Lee I may be branded a racist or offend someone!!!

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 12:36 p.m. PST

28mm Confederate and Union Western Theater built on actual brigades in the Army of Tennessee and the Army of the Cumberland. Not a Zouave, Iron Brigade, or Berdan's Sharpshooter among them.

Personal logo herkybird Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 12:42 p.m. PST

Both sides for me too! I always like to be able to do a game without depending on someone else bringing the opposition!
I also get to play both sides!

Personal logo John the Greater Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 12:53 p.m. PST

Both sides in large quantity in 15mm.

I'm assuming for F&F I would need to mount the dinos as cavalry? Or maybe based the same as division commanders – some of them were dinosaurs…

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 1:11 p.m. PST

I keep mine (28mm) pretty even.

jdpintex17 Aug 2017 1:13 p.m. PST

Both. Slightly more CSA infantry units, but larger union units.

Evenly divided on naval I believe.

Double G Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 1:14 p.m. PST

Both sides for me, all 20mm/smallish 25mm, about 4,000 figures, roughly 2,000 of each, all my figures are metal.

I've got strait up Union infantry, Iron Brigade, 14th Brooklyn, 114th PA, 5th NY, 140th NY, 155th PA, Berdan sharpshooters, troops in overcoats, dismounted and mounted cavalry, 24 guns with crews.

I've got Confederate infantry, Wheat's Tigers, dismounted and mounted cavalry, 24 guns with crews.

Also have a number of caissons, limbers, supply wagons and quite a few personality figures.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 1:56 p.m. PST

When I first "crossed over" into historicals, I picked up Fire & Fury, and finished around sixty stands of 15mm rebs, some buildings and other terrain bits.

In the likely event I couldn't find an opponent with his own stuff, I would build up a Union force next. They're easier to paint, anyway.

In all this time, they've never hit the table, and have passed over selling them off numerous times.

wrgmr117 Aug 2017 2:01 p.m. PST

Based for F&F 80 stands of Union, 67 stands of Confederates, all in 25/28mm.
I do have some 40 year old Minifig Zouaves.

dwight shrute17 Aug 2017 2:04 p.m. PST

Confederates in 15mm and 20mm .

Calico Bill17 Aug 2017 2:31 p.m. PST

Both

Cleburne1863 Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 2:43 p.m. PST

I initially had most of both sides in 15mm for Chickamauga. In the last few years I've been repainting and rebasing them for generic units.

So 3.

Personal logo Toy Soldier Green Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 3:27 p.m. PST

3 & 4. With 4 being a "Clockwork Civil War" that I am working on. Using 3mm PicoArmor ACW units along with 6mm Quar tanks from Zombiesmith and other machinations. Yes the project is in development.

John Miller17 Aug 2017 3:48 p.m. PST

Have both Union and Confederate but in most games I play the Union. John Miller

45thdiv17 Aug 2017 3:48 p.m. PST

Both sides, equal. I end up running the games so I always have both sides of the eras I game.

MSU John17 Aug 2017 4:00 p.m. PST

Both, roughly equal.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 4:43 p.m. PST

3, in 28 and 15mm. I had both in 6mm and 20mm but gave
all those away.

Normal Guy17 Aug 2017 4:46 p.m. PST

Okay, I guess I will play too. 15mm Union and Confederate generic armies. Slightly more Union figs but lots of both. Determined right from the beginning that I would build both sides rather than risk finding an opponent with an army. Have had my collection for way over 30 years. Most are original Old Glory. And they have seen hard service over those years being used for many, many scenarios.

Timbo W17 Aug 2017 4:48 p.m. PST

Both but more Union, in 6mm, nearly enough for Gettysburg with a brigade level game.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 5:17 p.m. PST

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Building (slowly) Thomas' Corps, Army of the Cumberland, and Hardee's Corps, Army of Tennessee, for battling in central Tennessee and northwest Georgia. Primarily using 15mm from Old Glory 15s.

You can see my progress as of a year ago link Not much done since then until just recently.

Jim

T Corret Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 5:31 p.m. PST

One of the issues with being in a great club and moving away is I have full armies of only one side, in this case rebels.

BW195917 Aug 2017 5:40 p.m. PST

15mm both sides more Union then reb

DOUGKL17 Aug 2017 5:51 p.m. PST

Both

cavcrazy17 Aug 2017 6:03 p.m. PST

I have a Union and a Confederate brigade, as well as a couple of guns for each side and mounted and dismounted cavalry, all Sash & Saber castings.

HMSResolution Inactive Member17 Aug 2017 6:05 p.m. PST

Nothing yet, but some day I'd like to do the Army of the James for the Petersburg Campaign.

Personal logo jdginaz Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 6:12 p.m. PST

Both Union & Confederate in roughly equal numbers.

teramaze17 Aug 2017 7:29 p.m. PST

I have for the Union Army the 5th and 12th Corps and the Artillery Reserve At Gettysburg. and the 14 Corps 3rd Division of the army of the Cumberland at Chickamauga.

The Confederates i have 2nd Corps and W.H.F. Lee BDE. of the Army of Northern Virginia and Johnson Division of Buckner Corp and Hindman's Division of Polk Corps at Chickamauga.

All in 15mm Based for Johnny Reb 2ed

BobTYW17 Aug 2017 8:20 p.m. PST

Both Rebel and Yankee units, pretty even. Stonewall brigade, Texas brigade, Orphan brigade,Irish brigade and Iron brigade.

Ottoathome17 Aug 2017 8:36 p.m. PST

My Civil War Armies are composed of the old "Woodens" figures. I have Union and Confederate. I also have made several special regiments out of basswood and printing to go along with the "flats" of the "Woodens" by Windcatcher graphics.

I do however do the back story as Imagi-Nations. The Union has morphed into "The Onion Army of General Sterling Silver Service. His nickname "Silver" comes from the curious phenomenon of the tableware disappearing from every Southern mansion he has his headquarters in. General Service in my backstory is an amalgam of my two favorite Unon Generals, "Commisary Banks" and General "Spoons" Butler. Service commands the Federal Army of the Chickehammenahammenahammmena.

The other side is the Cornfederate (both sides are named for the rations the crooked profiteer sell them) and it is commanded by General Holden Majohnson. He commands the Army of Missabama. He is patterned on the Shining stars of the South, Floyd and Wise.

Both of them were classmates at West Point where they were rivals in love for that paragon of Southern Womanhood, that Angel of the Ante-Bellum, Miss Fiddle de Leigh, which in fact is the Southern Rebel Yell "Fiddlededee!!!" She represents the best of all that is the tradtion of Southern Womanhood- a fist of steel in an iron glove, extreme malice, and occasionally rampant criminal nymphomania. (The Deleighs were always a little "tetched" in the head don't you know.)

Miss DeLeigh chose MaJohnson over Service, but Johnson soon found consolation in the arms of Miss Belle Starbuck, a girl from Massachusetts who in her own way epitomizes the virtues of NORTHERN womanhood- inclusing a monomaniacal lust for power. She fell in love with Service because of his dashing appearance, his powerfull family connections, his remarkable sword, and his enormous, fat, huge Dunn and Bradstreet rating.

In addition to these there is R.S.V.P.S.A.S.E. That's Reginald, Soubise, Vermandois, Pelham-Smyth, Alocious, Sandoval, Estiang. He was at West Point with Service and Johnson but he was expelled for attempting to sell state secrets to the Mexicans, and setting up a demerits fixing ring. He then married Miss Ulelie Ukelalie Umberstained, daughter of a Boston Publisher and radical abolitionist. When the war began he became a flagrant and rapacious war profiteer. For him buying Cotton in the South and smuggling it north, and buying Bonnets, corset stays, sugar, salt, top hats and silk bloomers to the South was childs play. His big trade was smuggling completely pornographic penny dreadfuls (with the good parts already underlined) south while shipping north that substance needed to inculcate military genius, and which was the essence of martial success, -- Shinola. This all Southerners brewed carefully in the pits in the ground behind every southern home. The ramshackle buildings with a seat for one and a crescent moon on the door.

The armies are pretty standard stuff but there are special units like Berdan Sharpshooters and scratch built ones like the Tiger Zouaves and a host of others I have run across. There are "special units" like personalites like the Onion Generals, Moe Howard, Abner Doubleplay, and General Schimmellpgenning. (I know he was a real general but how can you make a name funnier than Schimmellphennig. Miss DeLeigh's Mansion (called Tara-raboomdeay) and 'Mushmouth an Punkin Puss" the two confederate deserters from "The Horse Soldiers

*Yes Virginia there is a Dogpatch, and yes Moonbeam McSwine and Stupefyin Jones have been known to show up.

The whole thing is governed by a campaign system. There is no map, it's run on a flow chart. You get to choose the battles you wish. There is a list of 20. Yhe game is won by how long the South can prolong the war. The longer you can the more chance of European recognition. To accomplish this each side can choose offensives and through an easy process you can choose a battle to fight. Once a battle is fought, it can't be refought and the consequences of the battle determine the orders of battle, resources etc., for the rest of the game.

The battles are.

Grittysberg
Auntie Tum's Creek
Bull Dung Run
Second Molasses
Fredericksburg of Hollywood
Gnoshville
Vicki's Burgers (2 versions)
Chatahoochiecootchie Creek
Chickahammenahammenahammena
Fort Sump Pump
New Oilins
Shinola
If it's Tuesday this must be Marvin Gardens
Mylanta (2 versions)strong beautiful body, and his
March to Santa Claus
The Valley Girl Campaign
Peckersburg
The Wilderbeast
Lil Snotsylvania
Viagra Falls (this is a special battle where the south invades the north through Canada.

and so on.

The premise behind the game is that Slavery was NOT the cause of the Civil War, but the insane desire of the North to destroy the Southern Way of Life and hence the name of the rules.

"Magnolias, Mint Juleps, N' Gritz"

"Oh why Mistah Butla-- All this talk of Waah is so depressin'"

LostPict Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2017 8:41 p.m. PST

I have equal numbers for both sides. The confederate units are based on the NC units where my family served and the union units are from the historical units they fought. The family connections made them interesting to research on both sides.

Charlie 1217 Aug 2017 8:42 p.m. PST

Both.

CATenWolde18 Aug 2017 1:54 a.m. PST

10mm, both sides, enough troops to do pretty much everything short of the huge battles (working on that). Of course that means I have more Union infantry and artillery, and more Confederate cavalry, but it's pretty even.

I don't understand why you think the choice is important, if people have more of one side than the other? Are you trying to get people to state their preferences for other reasons? Every ACW gamer I know either has both sides in balance, or has more of one side or the other due to local/club needs – I've never encountered a "cultural" preference one way or the other.

nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Aug 2017 2:03 a.m. PST

Even though I have collections in 28 mm and 54 mm these are what I think of when I think Civil War.

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I drag these off the shelves and set them up.

Simply the best!!

AussieAndy Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2017 2:08 a.m. PST

More Confederate troops than Union troops for me, but I have bought the Union figures to bring them up to par with the Rebs as my next project.

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