OSL2000 | 17 Aug 2017 7:27 a.m. PST |
Curious what people think are the best rules for company level WW2 rules. Looking for playability not getting bogged down in a squad leader style rule set if that makes sense. Thanks. |
dBerczerk | 17 Aug 2017 7:31 a.m. PST |
In which scale do you Play? -- 1:32; 1:35; 1:56; 1:72; 1:100? |
advocate | 17 Aug 2017 7:51 a.m. PST |
I Ain't Been Shot Mum by Too Fat Lardies. |
OSL2000 | 17 Aug 2017 7:56 a.m. PST |
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OSL2000 | 17 Aug 2017 7:56 a.m. PST |
I guess that would be 1/100 |
22ndFoot | 17 Aug 2017 8:04 a.m. PST |
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martin goddard | 17 Aug 2017 8:09 a.m. PST |
I would suggest PBI if you mean there is a company on the table. Typically PBI gives a player 3 platoons ( a company) along with the possibility of a few attached bits, such as AT guns or a trio of tanks.PBI is basically an infantry game. Uses a 64 square grid ( 4 by 4 feet) so no measuring or fussing about exactly which window a chap is at. PBI puts the player in as the company commander. Therefore the player is removed from decisions that are part of the corporals and other NCOs job. PBI will not do the "Hollywood" stuff though, so might not be what you need. No problem with Hollywood games they seem to be greatly enjoyed. A recent new set of WW2 rules called the Russians, Germans etc "factions"! PBI are not the "best" as it is a subjective judgement of course. "suitable" might be a better word to match a set of rules to what you want. The best beer in the world is ? martin
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Jozis Tin Man | 17 Aug 2017 8:11 a.m. PST |
I love Crossfire or 5core Company Commander. Both make you think about all the stuff you should be worried about, like fields of fire, covered avenues of approach etc. and not whether Private Snuffy's rifle jammed or filling out paperwork for lost helmets. Ibsm looks good too, but I have never played it. As you can see, I prefer fast play rules, ymmv. |
Thomas Thomas | 17 Aug 2017 8:55 a.m. PST |
By Company level do you mean a player controls a Company (so each Stand represents a squad or do you mean each Stand represents a Company – so a player controls a Battalion (or so). WWII games seem to have settled out either at a Stand = individual soldier or a Fireteam/Squad or a platoon. By all means try Shot Mom but if its not your cup of tea bear in mind that there are many different approaches to WWII gaming. TomT |
Dynaman8789 | 17 Aug 2017 9:30 a.m. PST |
Fireball forward is my top choice followed by IABSM. |
VVV reply | 17 Aug 2017 9:34 a.m. PST |
I will suggest my rules, Action all Fronts. You can Look Inside here link |
Extra Crispy | 17 Aug 2017 11:02 a.m. PST |
I really like my Flames of War variant "Flames of Awesomesauce." Variant rules available here: link |
MajorB | 17 Aug 2017 11:02 a.m. PST |
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Fat Wally | 17 Aug 2017 11:20 a.m. PST |
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jdginaz | 17 Aug 2017 11:25 a.m. PST |
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Joes Shop | 17 Aug 2017 12:11 p.m. PST |
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thosmoss | 17 Aug 2017 1:59 p.m. PST |
What does PBI stand for? Peanut Butter Ielly Time? |
coopman | 17 Aug 2017 3:01 p.m. PST |
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Sgt Steiner | 17 Aug 2017 3:51 p.m. PST |
Panzer Grenadier by Dave Brown are a good alternative as are Battlegroup stable |
Rich Bliss | 17 Aug 2017 4:21 p.m. PST |
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coopman | 17 Aug 2017 5:20 p.m. PST |
You are going to get a lot of diff. recommendations because there are a lot of WWII rules sets out there. |
Warlord | 17 Aug 2017 6:04 p.m. PST |
Frontline Command WWII link |
UshCha | 18 Aug 2017 2:22 a.m. PST |
It doers not look like you are keen to get your hand dirty and think tactics. Crosfire would be worth a look if only to see if that sort of approach is one you want. Crossfire is about lots of moves but relatively simple rules. It does require a lot of thought and lots of bounds. Bolt action is more data and less bounds. Jozis Tim Man has it. Our own rules are simple but play is demanding in that concentration of forCES in time and spAce is like playing chess simple rules, hard to play. Neither aim at the "Comedy end" of the spectra, no Hollywood moments, no tea braeks etc, that to me is a major plus but its all personal taste. |
NKL AeroTom | 19 Aug 2017 1:44 a.m. PST |
Have a look at Ostfront – designed for fast play and tactics at the company level. Main rules: link Quick Fire Rules (free to download): link |
Last Hussar | 19 Aug 2017 10:49 a.m. PST |
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Marc at work | 19 Aug 2017 3:11 p.m. PST |
Battle group. Very scaleable at the lower end |
rulesquestor | 19 Aug 2017 9:04 p.m. PST |
Combat HQ. Wonderful set of rules . Fast to play and accurate feel. Free rules available to try. |
OSL2000 | 31 Aug 2017 5:21 p.m. PST |
Thanks for all the suggestions. |
GGouveia | 31 Aug 2017 10:00 p.m. PST |
IABSM by far if you want a good depiction of company level command. 6 votes. FOW gamey, Crossfire clunky. PBI would be my 2nd choice. |
number4 | 19 Sep 2017 6:58 p.m. PST |
Another vote for Battlegroup. Easy to pick up and fast moving games that give a realistic feel for actual WWII tactics. We play mostly 1/72 although one of our guys uses his 15mm FOW collection without any need for rebasing or alteration. Play the period, not the rules! |
fabambina | 19 Sep 2017 9:22 p.m. PST |
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Lee494 | 19 Sep 2017 10:03 p.m. PST |
I'll put in a plug for my rules – Skirmish Action – using the Optional Rules for minis mounted as Fire Teams. I use my FoW mounted minis for games of several Infantry platoons with supporting AFVs (in my mind that's company sized) and they play fast (90 mins or so) with a pretty real feel. 100% agree real feel is totally subjective. The website is simply Skirmish Action dot com and I will be running demo games at Fall In. Cheers! Lee |
christot | 23 Sep 2017 1:35 p.m. PST |
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christot | 23 Sep 2017 1:37 p.m. PST |
"Play the period, not the rules!" An admirable sentiment for anyone, but isn't it originally a Lardy thing rather than BG? |
freerangeegg | 10 Oct 2017 12:15 p.m. PST |
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stewart46A | 12 Oct 2017 11:47 a.m. PST |
PBI- excellent set of rules, |
Powermonger | 13 Oct 2017 6:14 a.m. PST |
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Deadles | 14 Oct 2017 2:39 p.m. PST |
Battlegroup – simple to pick up and works well at any level be it squad or company. |
Cpl Uhl | 31 Oct 2017 7:05 p.m. PST |
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VonBlucher | 04 Nov 2017 11:21 a.m. PST |
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This Ones For The Sarge | 12 Dec 2017 10:13 a.m. PST |
Force on Force by Ambush Alley Games is my personal fave but I'm hearing a lot of good things about Iron Cross by Great Escape Games as well! |
Theophanes | 29 Dec 2017 10:22 a.m. PST |
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Rev Zoom | 30 Dec 2017 11:16 p.m. PST |
Battlegroup. I said I would never get into a new period with miniatures and so forth. But, this broke my will. My 3D printer is going overtime. |
Lancer58 | 10 Jan 2018 9:11 a.m. PST |
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Achtung Minen | 14 Mar 2018 8:32 a.m. PST |
IABSM is perfect for modelling what a Company Commander would have to deal with and what he would and wouldn't know. |
ubercommando | 24 Apr 2018 9:29 a.m. PST |
For competitive play: Flames of War For interesting gaming: I Ain't Been Shot Mum For straightforward gaming with little fuss: Battlegroup |
cj1776 | 25 Apr 2018 9:54 a.m. PST |
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Dexter Ward | 01 May 2018 2:43 a.m. PST |
Battlefront:WW2, Crossfir (for infantry games) or IABSM |