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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian12 Aug 2017 7:33 p.m. PST

Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, a retired Air Force general who is now a news analyst, is quoted in an August 9th interview as saying:

We use nuclear capabilities if they [North Korea] fire one round on Seoul. We destroy in five minutes because we have an airborne alert with cruise missiles that we can take out that artillery right away. We don't want to do it, but we will retaliate that

Is he suggesting that cruise missiles with nuke warheads can take out the NK artillery threatening Seoul???

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP12 Aug 2017 7:51 p.m. PST

Wow. Sure sounds like it.

Does that mean that maybe now we'll finally find out what's in our very own arsenal?

Dan

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian12 Aug 2017 8:22 p.m. PST

While nukes might be the only way to eliminate that artillery (which is reportedly in hardened locations), using nukes that close to an inhabited, allied city is a startling idea. On the other hand, the city suffers if the artillery is NOT taken out.

How 'tactical' are tactical nukes?

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP12 Aug 2017 8:36 p.m. PST

Their artillery looks very mobile too.

Dan

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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP12 Aug 2017 8:43 p.m. PST

As for mini nukes …

Dan

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Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Aug 2017 8:56 p.m. PST

Sigh…retired AF officers now acting as "news analysts"…

So far everything I've ever read (including the stuff I worked on when i was in Korea) said nothing about us "responding with tactical nukes" if the Norks fired "one round" at Seoul."

It's nice to know that he thinks that tac nukes are going to be tossed so freely.

*sarcasm filter off*

R Brown12 Aug 2017 9:04 p.m. PST

This just in from TMP…..

Pan Marek Supporting Member of TMP12 Aug 2017 9:23 p.m. PST

Murphy +1

Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP12 Aug 2017 11:27 p.m. PST

The bunkers are designed to do two things, to allow barely trained recruits to simply point and shoot at the target and prevent anyone from turning the guns around and point them at Pyongyang. Many of the guns have been permanently fixed at a certain angle and elevation to prevent crews from accidentally hitting friendly targets etc.

The ammo is kept under lock and key, in the hands of the most reliable officers.

The "mobile artillery" is concentrated mostly in the area between Pyongyang and South Korea, manned by politically reliable troops (regardless of actual skill) and are to be used to either follow up the initial storm should the South Koreans buckle and fall back or shield Pyongyang and the regime from a counter-attack long enough until brother China comes to their rescue.

Like so many times before, North Korea is both a deadly threat and a classic dictatorship model where troops are only as good as the amount of propaganda they actually swallow.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP13 Aug 2017 12:05 a.m. PST

What impressive targets all those massed guns and tanks would make if they actually fought in such a way!

bsrlee13 Aug 2017 2:16 a.m. PST

Perfect target for Air-Fuel Explosive bombs (aka Hyperbaric)- looks like a nuke but no radiation. The USAF had them decades ago, no idea if they are still in inventory. The Israelis got into trouble for using some on SAM sites last century.

Vlad has heaps on mobile launchers in the Ukraine, too bad the US or ROK can't borrow a few batteries for 'test purposes'.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP13 Aug 2017 2:39 a.m. PST

Bsrlee,

The thermobaric bombs were (are?) an impressive lot indeed!

Dan

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Supercilius Maximus13 Aug 2017 4:31 a.m. PST

Anyone else think that the North Koreans use Flames of War to game their simulations?

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP13 Aug 2017 4:46 a.m. PST

I was just thinking the exact same thing, Super.

Tom

Striker13 Aug 2017 9:35 a.m. PST

Are you implying we might have a pic of Nork generals weighted down with medals pondering the nationality specific rules they should be allowed to use? That would be nice. The lined up arty looks like a hot dog eating contest for the Air Force. How many could you take out in one run?

Another +1 for Murphy. Pretty much any retired general can get a gig talking whatever they want on tv.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian13 Aug 2017 7:19 p.m. PST

More on this:

Retired Gen. Tom McInerney on Monday said the United States has the capability to take out every city in North Korea, if Kim Jong Un were to fire artillery into Seoul, South Korea.

"If he gets our full nuclear retaliatory capability, within minutes after one round going into Seoul, there will be nothing left," McInerney told Liz Claman on "Countdown to the Closing Bell." "If you go to Airborne Alertówe used to call it "Chrome Dome"ówith nuclear weapons and then we start building up our other forces, et cetera, he will not last 15 minutes."

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Interesting that he thinks the U.S. would escalate to nuclear weapons immediately. On the other hand, tactical nukes do seem to be the appropriate counter-measure for static bunkered artillery.

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP13 Aug 2017 9:00 p.m. PST

Hopefully it's just deterrence. The citizens of Seoul will hardly be happy with the fallout from a handful of "small" nuclear strikes just 35 miles away.

Whatisitgood4atwork13 Aug 2017 9:54 p.m. PST

If they launch at Seoul, they will not launch 'one' round.

I hope they don't of course, and think they know it would mean the end of their regime.

USAFpilot Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2017 6:16 a.m. PST

Every news outlet has their retired general "expert analyst". For those of us below the rank of general, we are limited to where we can bloviate (i.e. TMP). 😃

Lion in the Stars15 Aug 2017 9:00 p.m. PST

Considering that there is so much artillery pointed at Seoul that the delivery rate is measured in Kilotons per second, we might as well go nuclear since there's not going to be a Seoul left after the Norks open up.

Mitochondria16 Aug 2017 5:51 a.m. PST

I think that it is safe to say that North Korea will attack one day.

After all of the rhetoric from glorious leader they simply cannot back down.

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2017 11:12 a.m. PST

He has everything to lose and nothing to gain from attacking.

Once he attacks his reign is over.

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