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Queen Catherine Inactive Member31 Jul 2017 6:00 a.m. PST

they look like MBTs that have had turrets removed and are the largest APCs I've ever seen.

Page is Russian, so I can't tell what it says about them.


PzGeneral31 Jul 2017 6:16 a.m. PST

Kurganets-25 IFV?



I'm no expert, just a guess….

sidewinderscott31 Jul 2017 6:34 a.m. PST

They look like Israel namer

Queen Catherine Inactive Member31 Jul 2017 7:05 a.m. PST

Why would they have Israeli and Russian gear on the same column?

Surely they must be all one or the other…and they look the same to me.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2017 7:22 a.m. PST

They're all Israeli.

Cold Warrior31 Jul 2017 7:28 a.m. PST

It's actually a Finnish APC known as the Janne Niinimaa (hero of many winter battles) in service exclusively with the Teppo Numminen Brigade based in Karelia….

Personal logo optional field Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2017 8:01 a.m. PST

Why would they have Israeli and Russian gear on the same column?
The Israeli's captured a fairly large number of Soviet tanks in 1967 & 1973. They were conditioned and put into service with various modifications, and most recently that has seen them reconfigured (with the turrets removed) as very heavy APCs.

It shouldn't be too surprising that the page is in Russian, as a fairly large number of modern Israelis are from the former Soviet Union, and spoke Russian natively. More than a few of those immigrants still feel more comfortable speaking Russian than Hebrew. Thus the page being in Russian shouldn't be too surprising.

Having said all that I cannot confirm they are Israeli. I can just verify that as a plausible answer.

paulgenna Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2017 8:31 a.m. PST

They look like the Namer to me as well.

Darkest Star Games Sponsoring Member of TMP31 Jul 2017 8:59 a.m. PST

@Cold Warrior: ya killin me! Seen him play when he was on the Stars. Good times.

But just to add verification: those are indeed Israeli Namer APCs… And for carrying just 9 infantry men they're HUGE!

Barin131 Jul 2017 9:22 a.m. PST

Correct. these are Israeli APC's and soldiers.

Cold Warrior31 Jul 2017 10:38 a.m. PST

Sorry…bit of a facetious mood this morning…. :-)

But yes, as I had stated in my original post, they are Israeli Namer's based on the Merkava tank chassis.

shaun from s and s models Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2017 11:58 a.m. PST

merkava based apc

BenFromBrooklyn31 Jul 2017 12:34 p.m. PST

Those are all Israeli. There are Hebrew letters on the vehicle on the far right. No one else uses that!

twawaddell Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2017 11:45 a.m. PST

Just a suggestion but can you copy and paste the Russian text? If so you can plug it into the Google Translate app and get some idea of what it says. Translations can be garbled somewhat so your mileage may vary but you can get the gist of what it says.

soledad04 Aug 2017 1:10 p.m. PST

The trooper to the right looks fairly well fed…

Queen Catherine Inactive Member24 Aug 2017 5:24 p.m. PST

USA isn't the only army having problem getting soldiers trimmed down…I think he's holding a bag of kosher chips, actually.

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