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Queen Catherine31 Jul 2017 5:46 a.m. PST

…Anyone have any thoughts, images and links on what our ground-pounders will be wearing in 2019 for the middle east, specifically the West Iraq – Syria area?

I'm working on a US involvement in Syria for a near-future game, and am painting towards that.

I supposed it could be OCP, as it isn't all desert. But I'm wondering if there'd be a desert uniform in use, also.

Rakkasan01 Aug 2017 3:12 a.m. PST

For the conventional Army it will be the OCP with some units wearing the ACU or at least some elements of their kit will have that pattern. There will be coyote tan, black, and even various shades of green on the various packs, covers, and other elements of clothing and kit that folks are wearing these days.

Queen Catherine02 Aug 2017 2:04 p.m. PST

so we are phasing out the desert camo patterns in the middle east now?

Lion in the Stars02 Aug 2017 6:06 p.m. PST

Basically wearing Multicam(tm) or a variation thereof. The multicam I have is predominantly browns (with a green or two), works very well in arid places like Idaho or Afghanistan. Or the wetter parts of Iraq.

The UK went with three different versions of Multicam, one that is more green than standard for Europe, one that is more brown than standard for deserts, and then had all their organizational gear in standard Multicam (probably the single smartest military purchasing decision the Brits have made in the last 10 years).

SouthernPhantom02 Aug 2017 10:03 p.m. PST

Remember that, in many places, the desert is also half green. It certainly is in the parts of Arizona and New Mexico I've worked and traveled in.

Lion, I'll second that, Multicam is excellent camouflage. On a recent force-on-force training exercise out in the woods, our squad was getting back to our RP and vehicles about as the light was fading. A man in Multicam with a rifle is completely invisible from less than a hundred feet away in low light!

On a related note- has anyone else had the 'fun' experience of using M200 blanks? The damnable things worked for about three shots (the first shots of our ambush, luckily!) then it seems they all slid forward in the magazine and repeatedly caused double-feeds, turning my rifle into a straight-pull!

Dwindling Gravitas Inactive Member03 Aug 2017 5:04 a.m. PST

@Lion in the Stars:

UK's camo is called MTP (Multi-Terrain Pattern), which is ever so slightly different to original Multicam in terms of some of the shapes – they wanted to retain some form of "corporate branding" (I know …) so incorporated a "little" of the distinctive shapes found in DPM (Disruptive-Pattern Material), MTPs predecessor.

AFAIK, there is only the one version – no different shades. It's intended both for desert and temperate climes. I obviously stand to be corrected on that!

Intermixing with actual Multicam is – again AFAIK – down to the RSM, but pretty much everyone does it, as they're always finding new bits of Gucci kit they absolutely need :-)

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