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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse29 Jul 2017 11:55 a.m. PST

Victrix published pictures of their Early Imperial Roman war elephant in 28mm




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Rdfraf Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2017 11:59 a.m. PST

I had no idea Romans used elephants in battle!

Prince Rupert of the Rhine29 Jul 2017 12:47 p.m. PST

The Romans had some (22 I believe) at Pydna against the Macedonians. I think they occasionally made use of them in the late republican period.

Ironsides29 Jul 2017 1:41 p.m. PST

Vel Victrix say it is an Ancient war elephant so not EIR, but being tooled together with the EIR Auxiliaries, may have caused the confusion.

Sobieski Inactive Member29 Jul 2017 5:38 p.m. PST

Elephants led the Roman right to victory at Cynocephalae, there were a few in reserve at Magnesia, and Claudius may have taken some to Britain to overawe the barbarians.

HANS GRUBER29 Jul 2017 6:10 p.m. PST

The mahout looks Numidian. Perhaps the elephant is Carthaginian.

basileus66 Inactive Member29 Jul 2017 6:22 p.m. PST

Just a generic "Ancient War" elephant. Swaping heads and a few bits here and there and you can field any kind of elephant. I plan to use it for my Successors armies (using heads and figures from the Victrix sets), to bulk up the numbers of those I buy from Aventine Miniatures.

Tarantella29 Jul 2017 10:53 p.m. PST

For scale it looks about midway between a large North African specimen and a shortish Asian elephant.

Puster30 Jul 2017 1:21 a.m. PST

Made from plastic, they probably intend to sell more then one per customer. Hopefully they allow for variations in the pose, as animals that size look vastly weired if they are identical.

STEVE LBMS Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2017 3:39 a.m. PST

It is not an Early Imperial Roman elephant. It is going to be an African War Elephant of the smaller Forest elephant breed as used by the Carthaginians, Numidians and Ptolemies.
The Eastern Successor states used the bigger Indian elephant and the African bush elephant was not used as it was un-trainable.
The smaller forest Elephant can still be found in small pockets in the Congo.
There will be a separate half and different trunks to make positional options for the elephant.
Different crew options will be provided. Carthaginan crew as depicted in the images above. Ptolmaic crew with Hellenistic helmets and pike option. Numidian crew and also Republican Roman crew.
Indian elephants will come as long as this release proves itself to be popular. So far reactions have been very promising but we will see in a couple of months!


basileus66 Inactive Member30 Jul 2017 10:03 a.m. PST

Thanks for the info, Steve. Count me in for buying a few… And Indian Elephants? That would be outstanding!

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse30 Jul 2017 2:11 p.m. PST

Happy you like it boys! (smile)


WarWizard31 Jul 2017 5:26 a.m. PST

Steve, this looks great, thanks for the additional details.

NOBULL Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member06 Jan 2018 3:27 p.m. PST

I picked up four. Love them!

wmyers06 Jan 2018 5:56 p.m. PST

How do these compare in size, quality and price to the Old Glory ones?

Mars Ultor07 Jan 2018 5:42 a.m. PST

wmyers, I don't have this figure, but judging from owning past Victrix sets, I can tell you that the figures will be of much, much better quality than the OG elephants I've seen; size will be maybe a bit bigger than OG Carthaginian elephants I've handled, but as they are described as "smaller forest elephants", probably not too much. As for price, you get two with OG for about $39 USD (or $23.40 USD with the OG members discount, if you've paid that); on the other hand, you get one from Victrix for about $34.50 USD at current exchange, so there is that going in OG's favor (and for both that's without S&H). You'll only get the Carthaginian crew with OG, but they can be replaced.

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