"Any Ultra-Modern Rules Sets that are kept "Up to Date"?" Topic
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Cold Warrior | 26 Jul 2017 4:48 p.m. PST |
Okay, while I can find a number of rule sets for 1980's Germany, with GHQ's new releases have embarked on a buying binge for ultra-modern Pacific. US, PLA, South Korea, Japan and Australia. Any rules sets that are regularly updated with current equipment? Sabre Squadron would fit the bill, but the scale was a bit smaller than what I was looking for. |
Lion in the Stars | 26 Jul 2017 9:59 p.m. PST |
The problem with large-scale (as in, player in charge of battalions and more) ultramodern rules is figuring out the relative power balance. Not much evidence to work with! |
Extra Crispy | 27 Jul 2017 3:35 a.m. PST |
Fistful of TOWs III covers WW1 thru today. Plays equally well at 1:1 or 1:5 |
Cold Warrior | 28 Jul 2017 7:12 a.m. PST |
Thanks, Own FFT3 PDF, will gave to print it out and give it a go. |
10mm Wargaming | 29 Jul 2017 6:56 a.m. PST |
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Cold Warrior | 29 Jul 2017 10:03 a.m. PST |
Andy, Own CWC, so it's definitely on the "to try" list. However is there not a new edition due out soon? I know BKC is on version III (though apparently that was a bit of a botched release). If CWC is going to be updated soon will likely wait. |
Rick Don Burnette | 01 Aug 2017 12:07 p.m. PST |
For 22006 and after, yes itis mostly theory, indeed have there been any conflicts involving T 14 or the latest generation of US armor. Besides, if there are models of T 14 and post 2006 weapons systems, well they are not in 6mmm And the aforementioned rules do not address post 2006 things involving the up to date weapons, electronics, aviation and other. Drones, anyone? And just "updating" these rules, such as using the Cold War Commander template for this centurys war would be like using say a WWI rules set for WW2, especialy regarding air, artillery and armor. as an example, Team Yankee as it stands would be a poor model of post 2006 war. And yet, TY is only a thinly disguised WW2 game. So who cares |
twawaddell | 04 Aug 2017 11:51 a.m. PST |
Yeah, FFT3 is probably your best bet for up to date rules. CWC and GHQ's rules both suffer from the issue mentioned of being somewhat out of date. GHQ's rules are undergoing an update but don't appear to be available any time soon. I suspect the issue of getting data on modern systems and figuring out how to model some of them is an extremely difficult process. |
Rick Don Burnette | 06 Aug 2017 8:35 a.m. PST |
Nah, we will do what we always do. We shall use a WW2 rules set, modified, for Cold War conflicts, and then modify that set for 21st century war. Yet, a lot of new technologies and politics has made the world of WW2 and the cold war obsolete. The last massed tank battle was in 1991. Since then the opposing forces are using guerrilla and terrorist tactics. The big bad USSR with its large force is gone and Putins Russią is no subştitute. The North Koreans?? The Chinese?? Onlu in novels. But wait. Thats where Team Yankee came from, using perceptions of combat disproved by the reality in the desert a few years later. So we can either use another fictin or so called update an out of date rules set AND claim it to be some sort of simulation note. There are some Tom Clancy novels of the 21st century that will do |
BenFromBrooklyn | 14 Aug 2017 8:58 a.m. PST |
FFT3 is very good, I have only serious issue with it. The use of a D6 for everything leaves little room for modifiers. For example, if a real life commander is attacking a poorly trained infantry force, he will have part of his force lay down suppression fire. In FFT3, if the target unit is poor it already "maxes out" with negative modifiers. They already have a rate of fire of 1 and need a 6 on a d6 to hit. Nothing you can do will give them more negative modifiers- they will still get an ROF of 1 and need a 6 to hit, whatever. Instead, throw everyone into the assault! Because the die range is 1-6, maxing out with positive or negative modifiers can happen much too easily. I can deal with simplifications and abstractions, but when it causes game tactics to grossly diverge from real tactics, as in the example, that's bad. There, I've said it, that is my beef with FFT3! |
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