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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP24 Jul 2017 9:58 p.m. PST

Nice ones!

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Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP25 Jul 2017 4:39 a.m. PST

"Soldiers"? :)

Dan

Mick the Metalsmith25 Jul 2017 5:50 a.m. PST

Wondering if there are any Native American Indian figs for the Southwest? I was thinking about Apache guerrillas or Yaqui.

Henry Martini25 Jul 2017 6:52 a.m. PST

Too many pistols and not enough rifles/carbines amongst the Villistas, and though it's hard to tell from the images, the rifles on the infantry (Zapatistas?) look like muskets.

… and if these are supposed to be for the Mexican Revolution, why has this been posted on the Old West board?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP25 Jul 2017 10:32 a.m. PST

The big picture are called: "Peones"…

Not all the Mexican guerrilleros have modern rifles…

And do you think that Pancho Villa has nothing to be with the Old West stile?… (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP25 Jul 2017 11:22 a.m. PST

I have read many books General Poncho Villa and his Army. Also I've seen almost all the movies, including the one with veterans from Mexico. All of the troopers Had bolt action or lever action rifles. Lots of pistols too.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP25 Jul 2017 11:25 a.m. PST

By the way, according to the United States government the Oldwest ended with the frontier, ending in 1890.

Pan Marek Supporting Member of TMP25 Jul 2017 11:59 a.m. PST

The first two figures appear to be of banditos or vaqueros, although they could be used in the Mexican Revolution.

The big group, given the lack of bandoleros, and their use of muskets, seem more appropriate for Juarez' army of the Maximillian period.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP25 Jul 2017 6:28 p.m. PST

So, Pancho Villa really had soldiers? :)

Dan

Personal logo Wolfshanza Supporting Member of TMP25 Jul 2017 10:34 p.m. PST

He was a general…he had sojers !! grin

Henry Martini25 Jul 2017 11:23 p.m. PST

Well, he managed to get everyone into a uniform of some sort by 1915, so…

The occasional figure wielding only a pistol is fine as a leader/officer, but a pistol-wielding rank and file Villista figure should have a rifle/carbine slung over its back.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP26 Jul 2017 11:05 a.m. PST

December 1890 because of Wounded Knee?…

So.. Buffalo Bill circus from 1891 was out of the Old West?…. as the Johnson County War with the 6th Cavalry…. the Pleasant Valley War …. the Dalton Gang at Coffeyville, Kansas ….Butch Cassidy, Elzy Lay, Harvey "Kid Curry" Logan, and Bob Meeks rob a bank in Montpelier, Idaho…..Tom Horn ….The last stagecoach robbery in American history occurs at Jarbidge Canyon, Nevada (1916)… etc.


Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2017 10:51 a.m. PST

All of those events were no more frontier related then were Bonnie and Clyde or Dillinger. They took place in what is now the west Of the United States. Just not on the frontier.

The Frontier Passes into History. In 1890, the Census Bureau announced the end of the frontier, meaning there was no longer a discernible frontier line in the west, nor any large tracts of land yet unbroken by settlement.

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