"Neufchatel Bn Artillery Plastron Color" Topic
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| jarhead | 22 Jul 2017 6:38 p.m. PST |
After years of procrastination, I am finally getting around to painting the hodge podge of figures I have assembled to represent the Neufchatel Infantry, Artillery, Engineers, and the Guides, I have become confused. I am seeing conflicting plastron colors for the Neufchatel Artillery and Engineers. In Uniforms of the Napoleonic Wars 1796-1814, Scott and Haythornethwaite (pages 56 &57) shows the gunners with a blue plastron piped canary yellow and the engineer with a canary yellow plastron piped red. In some plates I saw on Alfons Canavos's website titled "Collection Boeswilwald" a plate was labeled "Artillarie Battaillion de Neufchatel" the artillery drummer, officer, and gunner displayed have canary yelow plastrons piped red. Then I started looking a Pintrest and yet more contradiction. Can anyone help clarify? My 28mm troops are awaiting an answer.
Thanks, Pat |
| Glengarry5 | 22 Jul 2017 11:38 p.m. PST |
According to Osprey Men At Arms 476 "Napoleon's Swiss Troops" (published 2012) artillerymen wore all blue uniforms with yellow collars and cuffs, all piped red with red epaullettes and shako cords. |
| dibble | 23 Jul 2017 2:01 a.m. PST |
Kotel's illustrations are all here. link If you are still confused go with the majority. Or you could go with this: link Paul :) |
| Glengarry5 | 23 Jul 2017 2:50 a.m. PST |
It should be noted that Osprey acknowledges there is a "dearth" of information on the Nuefchatel artillery uniforms and this is their best guess. Oh yes, yellow turnbacks. |
| von Winterfeldt | 23 Jul 2017 3:59 a.m. PST |
I would go along with the information dibble thankfully supplied. |
| Brechtel198 | 23 Jul 2017 4:06 a.m. PST |
The Knotel watercolors can be found in Napoleonic Uniforms by John Elting. The watercolors shown in the link by Knotel were in his collection. |
| jarhead | 23 Jul 2017 6:38 a.m. PST |
Of course! Most appreciated – Napoleonic Uniforms Volume II, Elting, page 119, Plate 46 – Knotel's Bataillion de Neufchatel, Artillerie, 1810, the gunner is depicted with blue plastron piped yellow,white buttons, yellow turnbacks – page 120, Plate 47, Sapeur de Genie de Batt. de Neufchate, 1812 – yellow plastron, no piping surrounding the plastron, white buttons, red turnbacks – the tie breaker was on my bookshelf. – most appreciated Dibble, Glengarry5, von Winterfeldt, and Brechtel198.Since the entire non-infantry force amounted to a company supporting 2 6lb guns, artillery, engineers, and train personnel, I can see how some degree of mystery has shrouded the details. Still an impressive combat record for such a small composite force.
Thanks,
Pat |
| Brechtel198 | 23 Jul 2017 8:34 a.m. PST |
Naturally-they were Swiss! |
| von Winterfeldt | 23 Jul 2017 11:44 a.m. PST |
there is a detailed article in Revue Militaire Suisse
Nr. 17 – 10th year, Lausanne 1865 aside of the two 6 pdr guns – it had 3 ammunition waggons for the guns, two infantry waggons and an utility waggon download link also link PDF link |
 deadhead  | 23 Jul 2017 1:10 p.m. PST |
Marvellous to be able to tap in to such expertise on such an obscure unit. von W especially! how good to hear from you again. A long period of silence. I hope just a holiday |
| von Winterfeldt | 23 Jul 2017 1:11 p.m. PST |
being not a supporting member i had to cool my heels |
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paints brigs for the British fleet.