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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Jul 2017 12:58 p.m. PST

This year's new "Run, Hide And Tell" Video Campaign:

link

Very similar to the set released in December 2015:

bbc.com/news/uk-35132442

Dan
PS. Do you think the terrorists are also watching these and already coming up with ways to counter the tactic?

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP10 Jul 2017 1:46 p.m. PST

Interesting. Here in the U.S. I believe the Active shooter phrase is "Run, Hide, Fight".

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Jul 2017 2:00 p.m. PST

That's still very true in the US, though not in all States.

The problem comes when we go abroad and we have to face an AK-47 with a plastic fork.

Dan

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP10 Jul 2017 4:47 p.m. PST

When the government disarms their citizens and they have no way to defend themselves, then running and hiding is about all they have left.

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP10 Jul 2017 10:47 p.m. PST

This is a good example of what happens when people let the government run too much of their lives. The UK had to call for American civilians to send them weapons to defend against German invasion in WWII. They have learned nothing.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
https://bunkermeister.blogspot.com

foxweasel Supporting Member of TMP10 Jul 2017 11:55 p.m. PST

This isn't about gun control, it's about terrorists. It's keeping out of the way so the police can do their job. Untrained civilians with concealed carry pistols are not going to achieve much against suicide bombers with AK's. Arming all our police is sensible, allowing private citizens to be armed in case an extremely rare terrorist attack happens is insane.

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2017 12:02 a.m. PST

It is actually advice to UK residents when they are on holiday abroad. IE not in the UK.

So UK gun laws are irrelevant in this context.

I would imagine that places like Spain and Tunisia prevent foreign tourists from bringing their firearms along on holiday, even if they're Americans….

foxweasel Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2017 2:17 a.m. PST

Sorry Cerdic, I just assumed it was the same "run, hide and tell" advice given out by Citizen aid and the police for the UK citizenaid.org

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2017 6:04 a.m. PST

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Personal logo Private Matter Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2017 6:08 a.m. PST

+1 Cerdic

Personal logo Dentatus Supporting Member of TMP Fezian11 Jul 2017 9:56 a.m. PST

Run, Hide, Tell… seems a bit wonky to me.

You are responsible for your personal safety – not the police, not the government. Police are great but they are neither omniscient nor omnipresent. In the current climate/reality, the UK should most definitely arm all their police. I would also suggest loosening CCL laws for law-abiding citizens with basic education, training, intelligent restrictions, and certification. There is nothing insane about it. Better to have a firearm and not need it that need it and not have it. Otherwise, those police will end up chalking your body and filling out paperwork.

foxweasel Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2017 11:07 a.m. PST

For myself I'd happily carry a firearm all the time, but I've had extensive training and am law abiding. Unfortunately, as the death toll by gunshot incidents in the States prove, if we allow normal people to have guns death by armed criminals/general lunatics, family members and accidents is far more likely than being killed by Islamic terrorists. As most of the Islamic terrorists are UK citizens, we'd just be arming them ourselves and the death toll would rocket.

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2017 1:45 p.m. PST

Dentatus…

This 'run, hide, tell' thing is NOT about the UK. It is advice to British people when they are in a FOREIGN country on holiday. As I'm sure you are aware, the majority of Brits leave the country and holiday abroad. Mediterranean countries are an especially popular destination.

Being responsible for your own safety is all well and good, but as I commented above, you are unlikely to be allowed to take firearms through passport control, on to an International flight, and into another country!

My personal opinion about our gun laws? Well, there have been terrorist attacks here since I was a small child. I've lived in London since my late teens, sometimes in fairly dodgy areas. I have NEVER felt so threatened that I thought I needed a gun.

foxweasel Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2017 2:23 p.m. PST

Cerdic, the new video and campaign is the same as the one for the UK link and in Caquique Caribes second link

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2017 2:49 p.m. PST

Fair enough! The BBC report I saw said it was aimed at tourists abroad.

Just goes to show you shouldn't believe everything you see in the media….

foxweasel Supporting Member of TMP11 Jul 2017 3:08 p.m. PST

That's the BBC for you mate😁

ITALWARS Supporting Member of TMP12 Jul 2017 2:10 a.m. PST

don't like this video..as i did'nt like at all ..Paris or London civilians evacuating buldings in front of the police with hands up….a useful video could only be a one stressing for action..that is, for example, denouncing or reporting to the police every neigbour at minimal suspect

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP12 Jul 2017 2:33 a.m. PST

Maybe they only want to denounce suspects after the fact, and then only gently and politely.

Dan

ITALWARS Supporting Member of TMP13 Jul 2017 2:30 a.m. PST

"only gently and politely"
i agree ….and i aso predict that into a few years..thanks also to the media…the victims will be considered liable of the crimes they suffered
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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP13 Jul 2017 8:43 a.m. PST

Of course, the same way that some twisted people think a rape victim "asks for it".

Dan

ITALWARS Supporting Member of TMP13 Jul 2017 1:09 p.m. PST

I have been always amazed and disgusted by the soft and diplomatic language the media, the web , the posters (including in this very forum) use when they talk about today s terrorists ..for me they must be called animals as they are and be lampooed without mercy…also for the reason that they are loosing

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