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roundie23 Jun 2017 9:50 p.m. PST

Hi
I seem to have a fair amount of 28mm AWI skirmisher based figures sitting in a box doing nothing at present. Subsequently find myself considering rebasing these and playing some bigger games. Can anyone recommend some good AWI rules.

I should say that I'm not overly keen on Black powder or card based systems. I've looked at (on the web) British Grenadier and also the Fire & Fury variation. BG looks interesting if a bit long winded, in saying that I do have a dedicated hobby room so games have no real time limit. I'm not sure what else is out there.

What I ruffly like/looking for
Good period flavor
around the 24 figure unit size
simple basing system
Some rules for skirmish units

Any help would be great
Cheers

GROSSMAN Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 11:29 p.m. PST

Guns of Liberty by Eric Burgess.

Personal logo Ironwolf Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 12:07 a.m. PST

For company level up to Brigade.
link

RittervonBek24 Jun 2017 1:36 a.m. PST

Peter pig's rules Washington's Army may be what you are looking for.

RittervonBek24 Jun 2017 1:37 a.m. PST

Peter pig's rules Washington's Army may be what you are looking for.

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 4:38 a.m. PST

The British are Coming.

Militia Pete Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 4:50 a.m. PST

Second Guns of Liberty

roundie24 Jun 2017 5:10 a.m. PST

okay cheers guys I will check those rule sets out

corona66 Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 5:41 a.m. PST

Another vote for Guns of Liberty.

RogerC Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 6:48 a.m. PST

I have played both British Grenadier and Black Powder roundie and does some write ups in the form of battle reports on my blog. Stick AWI in the search and see what you think. Still exploring the subject ourselves right now.
gapagnw.blogspot.co.uk

It is good to be King Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 7:23 a.m. PST

Guns of Liberty

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 7:37 a.m. PST

We've used both "Guns of Liberty" and "Disperse, Ye Damned Rebels!" (a Brom rule set, which you can get from sergeants3.com/19.html , second page).

Jim

Doug MSC Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 9:23 a.m. PST

We use a home grown rule set with our AWI figures. It is designed for 40mm figures but would also work well with 28mm. Drop me an e-mail and I will send you a copy. msc1d@aol.com

Khusrau24 Jun 2017 9:58 a.m. PST

I can't believe no-one has mentioned Sharp Practice yet. I am building AWI forces just for this rule-set.

Tricorne197124 Jun 2017 12:53 p.m. PST

We have been using an amended version of my Tricorne rules for 30 years. Each year and each theater yielded different tactics and qualities for both sides.
Our 1777 Pennsylvania games have (among other things)the British in a bit more open order moving at a faster rate than those in close order line with no tests required to initiate bayonet advance.

roundie24 Jun 2017 1:41 p.m. PST

RogerC
Yeah I checked out your blog before posting here. Black powder doesn't really interest me (its not a bad rule set just not my cup of tea).

I like the look of British Grenadier but, I'm not overly keen on all its multi sized basing. Saying that it looks about the right sort of detail.

Khusrau
Again Sharp Practice looks like a great set but it has (I believe)some card based elements in it which is not for me. Not a fan of cards in games sorry.

Jim
I will check Guns of Liberty out today

Thanks again everyone

Pan Marek Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 2:26 p.m. PST

Guns of Liberty.

Supercilius Maximus24 Jun 2017 2:27 p.m. PST

Another vote for British Grenadier, which is the best AWI simulation I have encountered in over 40 years' wargaming; Peter Pig's "Washington's Wars" is also good, but (IMO) better suited to non-historical / pick-up / tournament games. I don't like Black Powder due to the ridiculously huge move options which can go too far (again IMO). Whatever you do, I would suggest you avoid rule sets that were written for SYW and other European conflicts and claim to contain "modifications for N America" they invariably don't work, because they were written for armies with lots of cavalry and heavy artillery. Equally, British Grenadier generally works well for F&IW and War of 1812 because of the same lack of cavalry and heavy artillery.

Whichever rule set you choose, do obtain the British Grenadier Scenario books (4 of them, so far) which give good breakdowns of the two sides and can be used with any rules; "Rebellion" (which supports the Black Powder rules) is also worth a read.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 3:36 p.m. PST

My own Fife & Drum Rules for the American Revolutionary War can be downloaded for free from the Fife & Drum webstore. They should tick off all of your boxes and are easy to play with their being printed on one side of a sheet of paper.

link

Jim

Sundance24 Jun 2017 5:56 p.m. PST

1776

KSmyth24 Jun 2017 8:48 p.m. PST

The Regimental Fire and Fury adaptation for AWI. Played 'em and liked 'em.

Link to AWI QRS here.

link

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 5:27 a.m. PST

Whichever rule set you choose, do obtain the British Grenadier Scenario books (4 of them, so far) which give good breakdowns of the two sides and can be used with any rules; "Rebellion" (which supports the Black Powder rules) is also worth a read.

I agree 100%.
I use two rules that do not quite fit your criteria.
Warfare in the Age of Reason, modified by the GM, works well when the player commands a brigade or several.
I'm working now on a mashup of The Sword and the Flame, which uses individually based figures, and 800 Fighting Englishmen, which is based on TSATF, but gives a bit more flexibility for "larger" games. Both were designed for Victorian gaming, but the mechanics work very well in many periods.

As SuperMax said, those scenario books are quite good for both types of games.

dantheman Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 4:46 p.m. PST

I like Muskets & Tomahawks for skirmish. If you are looking for larger games and you don't like Black Powder, and don't mind learning new rules, then British Grenadier would be good. Played two games and liked it.
It is more detailed than Black Powder though.

oldnorthstate25 Jun 2017 9:49 p.m. PST

You need the Carnage and Glory computer moderated rules…if you are going to Historicon pop into my 40mm CG game…Cornwallis' assault at Brandywine…running it twice.

roundie26 Jun 2017 2:28 a.m. PST

Sorry I live in New Zealand so no Historicon for me. After everyones help I think I'll start by getting some British Grenadier scenario books before trying out any rules.
cheers all

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2017 6:03 a.m. PST

Start with DAF's rules. They're s free email. grin

AuttieCat Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2017 7:44 a.m. PST

My question regarding 'Guns of Liberty'--isn't out of print?

Tom S.

DinOfBattle226 Jun 2017 12:50 p.m. PST

Thank you for all the Guns of Liberty votes. The 2nd edition is now out of print and I'm working on the 3rd edition. I hope to have that published later this year or early 2018.

womble67 Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2017 3:43 a.m. PST

I would recommend Black Powder Rules with the Rebellion Black Powder Supplement. Hope it helps.

As always, comments are appreciated.

Take care

Andy

PVT64128 Jun 2017 11:01 a.m. PST

Another for Guns of Liberty by Eric Burgess.

historygamer29 Jun 2017 7:46 p.m. PST

BG gets my vote.

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