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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian23 Jun 2017 6:10 a.m. PST

I received a message from someone today, chiding me for posting as "guest" on the Frothers forum. He says that's why people supposedly don't trust me. (sigh)

So let me say this one more time: I do not post on Frothers as "guest". I have an account there, and if I want to post something on that forum, I will use my TMP Editor account there.

I don't know who is posting as "guest" on Frothers, or why they are pretending to be me.

If any of you are posting on Frothers in a way that makes people think I am posting there, please stop.

Personal logo PrivateSnafu Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 6:16 a.m. PST

Bill, please do not let that which you cannot control trouble you. You'll be more contented. Forgive and forget.

Legion 423 Jun 2017 6:18 a.m. PST

As I said on another thread here … and I still stand by it … IMO, the less said about that other "site" and the "flora & fauna" that inhabit it … the better … Nothing good or of any real value comes from there …

Good advice Private Snafu, I laud your outlook, etc. But I come from another POV … always have … "Forgive No One, Forget Nothing … " That may be seen as one of my failings. But I'm much too old and cranky to change now … old fart

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian23 Jun 2017 6:23 a.m. PST

Bill, please do not let that which you cannot control trouble you.

We usually just laugh at them. The only thing I cannot abide is their rampant racism and homophobia. But in this case, I wanted to be clear (once again) on this subject.

Legion 423 Jun 2017 6:46 a.m. PST

Bill, You & I don't always agree on some things. But I'm with you completely on that …

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 6:48 a.m. PST

I don't think you are accomplishing anything except drawing attention to what's going on "over there".
Do you really think it will stop? All you will do is encourage more if it.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian23 Jun 2017 6:53 a.m. PST

That's not the point, Winston, The point is to make it clear, once again, for the benefit of anyone who might be confused on this issue, that I have not been posting on Frothers using false accounts.

Tango0123 Jun 2017 10:49 a.m. PST

Totally agree…


Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian23 Jun 2017 12:11 p.m. PST

For those who believe you, saying so is unnecessary.

For anyone who doesn't, your insistence will not convince them.

There may be some in the middle who, out of ignorance perhaps, believe the rumors without having heard my side. It doesn't hurt anything to repeat the truth. grin

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 12:16 p.m. PST

Whatever…..

nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 1:29 p.m. PST

Yawn…………

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 11:25 p.m. PST

In my opinion if would be best if Dear Editor were to cancel his account at that other place and NEVER MENTION THEM EVER AGAIN for any reason.

You only draw attention to them. Any publicity is good publicity.
Coke never mentions Pepsi.
Chevy never mentions Ford.

This thread has 1,000+ hits, 500 of them checked that other site afterwards.

Just stop.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
https://bunkermeister.blogspot.com

Legion 424 Jun 2017 11:00 a.m. PST

And yet the trolls, socks, etc., keep coming regardless. Bill Locked Out at least one or two here. And there is another running around I've let Bill know about.

Tango0124 Jun 2017 11:03 a.m. PST

My dear friend Bunkermeister… I'm with you!! (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 6:03 p.m. PST

Legion 4, can you kindly stop bragging about how many people you have Reported to Higher Authority?
You sound like the Stasi.

Please note that this NOT a "shut up" DH-able offense. Kindly carry on with your other posts. Being an informant is simply ….. unseemly. Bragging about it is even worse. Do you want a tin medal for that? With a nice fancy chartreuse and lavender ribbon?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian24 Jun 2017 9:45 p.m. PST

Winston, what Legion 4 is talking about is reporting a troll account that was specifically set up to target Legion 4.

Several people reported that account, and I Locked it and deleted the posts.

Legion 425 Jun 2017 4:29 a.m. PST

Legion 4, can you kindly stop bragging about how many people you have Reported to Higher Authority?
As Bill said, I reported those that target me. And as Bill said others have reported those posts as well. That is not bragging in my mind. But as usual we don't see eye-to-eye on many things.

You sound like the Stasi.
"You flatter me !"

Please note that this NOT a "shut up" DH-able offense. Kindly carry on with your other posts. Being an informant is simply ….. unseemly.
Re-read my first reply to you … please … And I know I can always depend on your supportive, useful, helpful, comments. As I have seen so many times before. And I know you'd never tell me or anyone to "shut up". I know I wouldn't … So Thank you … again. thumbs up

Bragging about it is even worse.
My bud from TX says it's not bragging if it's a fact ! huh?

Being an informant is simply ….. unseemly. Bragging about it is even worse. Do you want a tin medal for that? With a nice fancy chartreuse and lavender ribbon?
No thank you, I'd rather have a gift card to Sushi place. But thank you for the kind thoughtful offer.

Do You want a tin medal for that? With a nice fancy chartreuse and lavender ribbon? If so, I'll see what I can do if you like … evil grin badge gold star iron cross

It appears Higher HQ has denied your request … no star frown

*Disclaimer … attempting to keep this in the realm of light banter. Not divisive, derisive, disdainful, etc. …

Legion 425 Jun 2017 5:58 a.m. PST

Oh … and just for clarification and context Winston … TMP link TMP link

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 7:53 a.m. PST

How do blank deleted boxes clarify anything or add context, except to Channel Braxton Bragg and show you arguing with yourself?

Legion 425 Jun 2017 9:30 a.m. PST

Hmmmm … Seemed obvious to me. I'm not Legion 40. That is who Bill and I are referring to. I was not arguing with myself. Again, it seemed clear. As Bill said, "Legion 4 is talking about is reporting a troll account that was specifically set up to target Legion 4."

I am Legion 4 NOT Legion 40 … his posts " that was specifically set up to target Legion 4." … I.e. Me … I'm Legion 4 not Legion 40.

Again, I thought Bill's post to you made that clear. Guess not …

show you arguing with yourself?
And why would I have to argue with myself when there seems to "plethora" of trolls, socks, critics, detractors, "enemies", etc., etc., here on TMP ? Who are more than glad to start an argument, make a personal attack, etc. directly. At me … Legion 4 NOT Legion 40 …

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 9:56 a.m. PST

Since those posts were deleted, how can they possibly add "context"?

Years ago when I had the ambition to do so, I sometimes argued with myself on two different computers. It's faster that way than logging in and logging out. I even earned one of my sock poppers a short stint in the DH.
My "real" account (and who is to say which one was real?) took a victory lap. The statute of limitations has hopefully expired on that crime.
I soon grew weary of that "fun". grin
But some never tire of it.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 9:59 a.m. PST


I am Legion 4 NOT Legion 40 … his posts " that was specifically set up to target Legion 4." … I.e. Me … I'm Legion 4 not Legion 40.

Again, I thought Bill's post to you made that clear. Guess not …

show you arguing with yourself?
And why would I have to argue with myself when there seems to "plethora" of trolls, socks, critics, detractors, "enemies", etc., etc., here on TMP ? Who are more than glad to start an argument, make a personal attack, etc. directly. At me … Legion 4 NOT Legion 40 …


You're not shy about reporting them, are you?
I guess not, since you consider "Stasi" a complement.

Legion 425 Jun 2017 10:02 a.m. PST

Well … I would think the fact that Legion 40 and Legion 4's posts were deleted by Bill as he stated. I'd think at the very least that could be presented as "circumstantial evidence".

And as I said, I have so many "fans" here, I don't have to argue with myself. huh?

You're not shy about reporting them, are you?
No since they were a personal attack, etc. on me.
I guess not, since you consider "Stasi" a complement.
Obvious hyperbole … if you even posted KGB, NKVD, etc. and my reply would have been the same.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 11:57 a.m. PST

Oh. You admire them too? Logical, I guess. You know your own mind better than I do.
This is kind of like the "Yeah, the SS did a lot of evil things, but you must admire them for the way they ….." argument.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 12:01 p.m. PST

Well … I would think the fact that Legion 40 and Legion 4's posts were deleted by Bill as he stated. I'd think at the very least that could be presented as "circumstantial evidence".

"Your Honor, I would like to present as Prosecution Exhibit 23, this blank piece of paper."
"Just like the previous 22 blank pieces of paper?"
"Yes, Your Honor."

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian25 Jun 2017 12:37 p.m. PST

Years ago when I had the ambition to do so, I sometimes argued with myself on two different computers.

Did you use Tor to hide your IP address? Did you get a temporary email account somewhere?

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 12:49 p.m. PST

Anyone who has been around in this world had had many different email accounts. I've had Compuserve, aol, Msn, and more work emails than you can shake a stick at.
Two computers on two desks, work all caught up…
It's doable, but I forget when and what the topic was. I think I won the argument. grin
If I could be bothered, I could bring back Frodo Corleone and William Pitt the Eldar for an argument.
There's no point in having the OFM argue with Winston since everyone knows the story. But the socks I have on my son's cell phone? evil grin

I have no intention of proving anything. I'm just telling the FBI director that he better be glad there are no tapes !

Legion 425 Jun 2017 2:15 p.m. PST

You admire them too? Logical, I guess. You know your own mind better than I do.
This is kind of like the "Yeah, the SS did a lot of evil things, but you must admire them for the way they ….."
Hyperbole … again John … And if anyone would actually think I would "admire" those types you mentioned. Then they may have a "problem", not me.

I would like to present as Prosecution Exhibit 23, this blank piece of paper."
"Just like the previous 22 blank pieces of paper?"
So what is your accusation/contention John ? I made the whole thing up ? huh?

Bill saw and deleted those posts I sited. He knows what was posted, etc. He could be a "surprise" witness/subject matter expert …

John if you find me so unseemly, and think I admire those that you posted, etc., etc., you can always stifle me as Bill so often suggests.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 3:49 p.m. PST

I'm not saying you made anything up.
You are the one who presented blank spaces as evidence.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 3:54 p.m. PST


You sound like the Stasi.

"You flatter me !"

What else am I to make of that?

Hey, look. I'm not going to act like rebelyell or Mac on Frothers and hound you to the grave.
Just say you made a dumb response and I'll drop it.

Also, just stop bragging about how many and how often you hit the complaint button.
It's unseemly and unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, which I understand you were.

Legion 425 Jun 2017 4:40 p.m. PST

I'm not saying you made anything up.
You are the one who presented blank spaces as evidence.
And yet, Bill knew what was said, and it was a all deleted. Again, I thought Bill's post to you made that clear. Guess not … Again …
Winston, what Legion 4 is talking about is reporting a troll account that was specifically set up to target Legion 4.

Several people reported that account, and I Locked it and deleted the posts.



"You flatter me !"

What else am I to make of that?

It has to be obvious, again it was in jest … That seemed obvious to me …

Hey, look. I'm not going to act like rebelyell or Mac on Frothers and hound you to the grave.
Hey look. Don't know who they are … but I'm not dead yet … so … they can continue their "foolish" quest. I'm not going anywhere. And they must have a sorry excuse for a life if they spend much of their time trying to come after me. On a site about playing with toys. Maybe they need to grow up ?

Just say you made a dumb response and I'll drop it.
IT WAS NOT dumb … it was meant to be dark humor … So maybe you should drop it ?

Again I don't consider it bragging … only stating a fact about the removal of a troll … Which are a frequent feature here on TMP. And I'll do it again …

It's unseemly and unbecoming an officer and a gentleman, which I understand you were.
Believe me … you are incorrect in your comments about unbecoming, etc. You have little idea of what you speak.

As I have said and will say again. If stones are thrown in my direction, I'll throw them back. I will not turn the other cheek.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian25 Jun 2017 7:36 p.m. PST

Gentlemen, I don't even understand what you are arguing about. Can we get back to gaming, please? grin

Legion 426 Jun 2017 5:27 a.m. PST

Amen Bill … Amen … thumbs up

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2017 5:58 a.m. PST

I have some figures to paint up for a 25/28mm TSATF Flames of Liberty game coming up.
I've wanted to do Eutaw Springs for years, so it's on our club schedule.
This gives me a good excuse to finish a dozen Front Rank Highlanders for 2/84, and British Legion Foot as Lee's.

What are you painting, Ralph?

Legion 426 Jun 2017 6:16 a.m. PST

Hey John ! I'm still painting my massive inventory of 6mm Sci-fi ! Right now I'm working on my Death Guard Chaos Space Marines and some Chaos Khorne World Eater Space Marines. For 6mm Sci-fi gaming. But I'm more of a modeler than a gamer these days. I usually post pics on the 6mm Sci-fi boards.

Ottoathome26 Jun 2017 6:42 p.m. PST

If a "Frother" was at a game at my house and acted as they do on the list, I'd toss him out-- the second story window.

On the other hand if I went to a game put on by that person I should have no illusions as to their character.

Legion 427 Jun 2017 6:38 a.m. PST

thumbs up

Legion 429 Jun 2017 5:35 a.m. PST

Mentioned this on another thread … but I thought I'd share evil grin

I just thought of a new "term" for some types "Frolls" huh? wink I think it's roots and creation is self explanatory … laugh LOL !

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian29 Jun 2017 5:36 a.m. PST

One of the editors calls them the Farters. evil grin

Legion 429 Jun 2017 5:40 a.m. PST

LOL !!!!

Pertti19 Sep 2017 6:21 a.m. PST

Is Frothers down?

Maybe they went bankrupt. They should have advertised on TMP.

Legion 419 Sep 2017 8:06 a.m. PST

huh?

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2017 11:18 a.m. PST

I guess I'm not the only one to notice. grin
And here I thought it was from a virus picked up on one of those sites featuring…..

BlackWidowPilot Supporting Member of TMP Fezian20 Sep 2017 3:12 p.m. PST

Oh, my! It does indeed appear that their site is down, or at least not responding…

Should I put on more popcorn?evil grin

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
silent-death.mx

Personal logo jhancock Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2017 6:06 p.m. PST

Will a safe space for frothers be set up on TMP?! ;-)

Gwydion21 Sep 2017 7:03 a.m. PST

I thought they were all on here anyway? grin

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP21 Sep 2017 7:16 p.m. PST

That's what I thought.

Of course, here those guys won't tell you how they really feel about you. They save the trash talking for later.

Dan

JoJo the Idiot Circus Boy22 Sep 2017 5:31 a.m. PST

Oh, my! It does indeed appear that their site is down, or at least not responding…

I normally hate internet "memes". They are way too often a lazy alternative to actually making a relevant point via discussion. But I'll make an exception here.

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and…

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I wonder what happened to them. Perhaps some civic minded individual finally got around to sending a formal complaint to the site's hosting provider for allowing the site's admins to permit cyber-stalking, harassment, and other violations of the Host's Terms of Service? Or perhaps the Host got tired of being CC'd on all of the DMCA Takedown Notices that the rampant posting of unauthorized copyrighted material on the "Froth Pot Anti-TMP Thread" generated and finally pulled the plug on the site? Or did Bill or some other target of that community finally take advantage of the fact that the UK takes it's libel laws fairly seriously and pay a British lawyer to send Frother's owner and/or Host a "cease and desist" order?

We'll probably never know! ;-)

In all seriousness, as much as I hate the morally cowardly behavior of the former denizens of the anti-TMP thread, I'm torn on Frothers as a website. There actually was some useful material there. For instance I found one of the "Colonel Marbles Figure Roundup" pages of use last year when I was looking for some alternate Dark Elf figures for a Warhammer/AoS army. But on the whole, any positive was countered by the purposely vulgar and profane nature of much of the site. In that respect it reminded me of the Warhammer 40k Tactics pages hosted by 1d4chan. (they're often at the top of Google searches when looking for such material, so they are hard to miss..) There is actually some useful army building and play advice on those pages. But one has to wade through all the profanity, trash talk, and utter filth posted by children trying to be "edgy". It is often simply not worth it.

Oh, who am I kidding. Frothers appears to be gone, and I for one am glad of it.

Rest in p--s, Frothers Unite!

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tookey2322 Sep 2017 9:47 p.m. PST

It was only a timeout, if it was dead it would have 404'd.

Oh look it's back. ….how embarrasing !

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