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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 1:15 a.m. PST

Gringo40s are thrilled to announce we will be producing
our biggest range yet covering the First/Second/Third Opium Wars in China. First up will be the short but intense 1860 campaign which pitted Britain and France against the might of the Manchu/Ching Empire. projected release date CRISIS 2017 in Antwerp,range is 28mm

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badwargamer23 Jun 2017 1:28 a.m. PST

Good stuff…no use to me as already gaming it in 15mm, however, good to see manufacturers looking at these periods/theatres. Some interesting battle out there.
Hope it sells well.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 1:39 a.m. PST


appreciate the feedback!!
many thanks


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 2:07 a.m. PST

Think you used too much button power there, Butch?

I am sure our esteemed editor will fix that in due course.

Some pictures as requested….especially Charlton Heston….sorry Chinese Gordon (actually what a great likeness of the real chap). Now shave off his moustache, dress him in a Montana hat and US cavalry uniform and you have another Chinese War.

The Manchu gunner is the first of many I gather



McWong7323 Jun 2017 2:07 a.m. PST

Any pics?

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 5:05 a.m. PST

more pics to follow chaps


Wargamorium23 Jun 2017 6:05 a.m. PST


May I ask what figures you are using for the 1860 war. I have my Crimean War French but not sure what British figures to use or indeed what Chinese figures to use in 15mm.

I would be interested to know what rules you use as well.


Rdfraf Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 10:38 a.m. PST

I want these!!!!

McWong7323 Jun 2017 6:01 p.m. PST

Looking good.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 1:16 a.m. PST

Rdfraf and McWong 73 thanks Chaps


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 4:14 a.m. PST

Few more to whet the appetite. Manchu archer and the impression of their cavalry from an old print. Ged said he hoped this would inspire "Cerebral" input. Brainstem longing would be more like it, than higher cortical centres I suspect……..



WillieB Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 3:08 a.m. PST

First of all extremely honoured that the range will be released at Crisis in Antwerp. Thanks (again!) Ged!

To be honest I don't know much about the Opium Wars at all ( in fact I thought there were only 2) but the figures look so good I already know I won't be able to resist building a small force for a good skirmish system like Sharp Practice for example. And yes I know that is what I said about my Indian mutiny forces as well but it got out of hand since the figures were that good. Oh my, I'm in trouble now ain't I?

Come to think of it . I'll probably be able to use at least some of the British figures for the Indian Mutiny as well. I'm definitely in trouble now….

badwargamer25 Jun 2017 7:27 a.m. PST

Great looking figures! Don't want to go off topic but thought it rude not to answer wargamoriums question. For second opium war I will be using Indian mutiny British. For the first I would have used Crimean but don't have any so had to use Napoleonic!
For the Chinese I use the Khurasan Manchu range and Irregular imperial Chinese as well as some old glory. Can't help with the rules as use and all period in house set of rules.

Wargamorium25 Jun 2017 8:06 a.m. PST

Thanks Badwargamer

Had not thought of Khurasan Manchu Range but will check that out now.

Like you I will have to devise my own rules.


jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 12:55 p.m. PST


really pleased you like these ………..CRISIS initial release gives me more time as its a huge Arena…I have tons of stuff underway…take it from me once you read about this period you will be hooked. the 3rd Opium War was deemed by some writers as the second part of Opium Wars two or round two as it were. in effect three was three as our mate from France were involved making for a fascinating campaign mainly land based.


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2017 4:29 a.m. PST

and now I am sent images of a spongeman (to stand on the right of the cannon, as it faces forward) remember and a mandarin to tell him what he is meant to hit!



jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Jun 2017 5:06 a.m. PST

cheers Liam many more pictures/figures to follow


Bindon Blood28 Jun 2017 1:57 a.m. PST

Lovely figures and a VERY tempting period.

Will you be doing a Midshipman Fisher figure too?

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Jun 2017 10:27 a.m. PST

Bindon Blood many thanks indeed……….will be making

a selection of Character figures.. not sure who

Midshipman Fisher was/is….please enlighten me

Wade and others for sure



SgtGuinness29 Jun 2017 6:29 a.m. PST

Are there crossover figs we could use for the Tonkin campaign in the 1880's! Me and a couple of friends are starting to build forces for this campaign.


Bindon Blood30 Jun 2017 3:39 a.m. PST

Hi Ged,

Midshipman Fisher was recommended to the Navy by the last of Nelson's captains, served on HMS Warrior as the Gunnery Lieutenant, became Captain of HMS Inflexible during the Egyptian War, was Admiral of the Channel Fleet, then First Sea Lord.

Fisher was the driving force behind HMS Dreadnought, modernising the Royal Navy and the use of torpedoes and submarines (they were known as Fisher's Toys). At he time, the Admiralty was know as The House that Jack Built.


As far as China goes, he fought during the land campaign, distinguishing himself.

With a career going from sailing ships to oil fired dreadnoughts and aircraft carriers he did more to prepare the Royal Navy for the Great War than anyone else. A fascinating man, although he never commanded a fleet engagement, he does have a claim on being one of Britain's greatest admirals….

He was an ugly little blighter too… :)

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Jun 2017 6:12 a.m. PST

Bindon Blood many thanks for the enlightening information…I may have bought his memoires as his
photo looks familiar! buried under a pile of books
on the subject!


jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Jun 2017 6:17 a.m. PST


funny you should mention the Tonkin campaign
as im looking at potraying some of my French
in the simple blouson and trousers (some)
wore in 1860……….not such a huge leap..
I have some splendid pictures and info for Tonkin
..will post here once I have had a good look at weapons


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2017 9:09 a.m. PST

and just to whet your appetites some more..

A rather unpleasant, aggressive-looking chap with a sword and another better armed

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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Jul 2017 5:04 a.m. PST

cheers Liam

much more to follow on the Chinese front initially


SgtGuinness07 Jul 2017 3:53 p.m. PST

Hi Ged,

I'm looking forward to seeing those French figs.

Will you be making any Chinese figs that can be used for Tonkin in 1884 onwards?


jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Jul 2017 2:29 p.m. PST

SgtGuinness………….looking at French figures
at the moment …..1860 for sure !!


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP12 Jul 2017 7:19 a.m. PST

and now a standard bearer and a nasty looking spearman. Not sure I would care to upset either of these chaps.



Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP14 Jul 2017 4:55 a.m. PST

Will shortly post an image of the next thing promised. A superb Chinese cannon for the artillery crew to man.

I think it is worth starting a new separate posting, as many may not revisit this topic, having read it once.

Not a period that would normally interest me, but this cannon has caught my imagination!

Durando01 Aug 2017 6:49 p.m. PST

Some of the Chinese can be used for the Sino Nap war of 1894-95

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Aug 2017 9:36 a.m. PST

duramdo………….you quite right the figures can be used
for a large swathe of Chinese history……will be adding more weapons to extend the range as it were


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2017 11:49 a.m. PST

The range continues to expand.


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