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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2017 10:34 a.m. PST


You know nothing, Jahaerys Targaryen."
No. I don't think so.

Cacique Caribe17 Jun 2017 10:37 a.m. PST

I wonder if anyone ever called him "yellow".


Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2017 10:38 a.m. PST

Jon Stark?
Tony Stark?

Dynaman878917 Jun 2017 12:45 p.m. PST

John Snow is his true name.

Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2017 5:18 p.m. PST

Maybe John Doe Snow. He has that deer in the headlights look often.

jowady17 Jun 2017 5:39 p.m. PST

There have been so many leaks about this season, so many of them backed up with photos and the like that frankly I am no longer that interested. Jaherys? How many viewers will know or even care about the meaning? I know that I won't. Oh sure, I was bitten by the bug, I participated in online discussions. And then I came to my senses. See I had the temerity to criticize the story and GRRM's writing skills in particular. Unlike many readers I don't think that in 15 or twenty years anyone will really care about any of this. It will be like "who shot JR?" How many folks today even know that reference? GoT and ASOIAF (yeah, book and TV people get really upset if you call them by the wrong name) aren't even going to have the staying power of Kirk and Spock let alone Achilles, Arthur, Robin Hood, or D'Artagnan. Especially now that HBO has started dropping hints that after this season's measly 7 episodes the next 6 might not come out until 2019 or 2020. We've had to put up with that from the books and my answer to that is that I am no longer interested in Books 6&7 and if the ending of GoT isn't coming out for another 2-3 years then I'm fine with just reading about the ending in the papers. This is getting to be as if Baseball and Football said, "you know what? Let's delay the World Series and the Super Bowl until the start of next season". As a fan they have really turned me off and trying to get another "who is Jon Snow really?" thing going doesn't really interest me.

Oh and I really don't get the importance of being a "dragonrider". I mean all they do is sit on the back of those (to me) not all that impressive dragons (I mean look, they're based on chickens!)

jowady17 Jun 2017 5:49 p.m. PST

I wonder if anyone ever called him "yellow".


Watch out where the Huskies go…

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2017 12:58 a.m. PST

Watch out where the direwolves go?

Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2017 11:14 a.m. PST

I think GRRM may have reached the point where his books have reached both the point of diminishing returns and obsolescence.

The series has vastly outstripped the books in popularity, he's pretty much known to many as the long-winded adapted novel writer.

His novels had quite a few shockers, which is now biting him in the ass as he keeps on expanding the books, we are already braced for sudden reversals. By every logic Cersei is due to get a whole containership of whoopass in her face, but we can be quite certain that by the end of next season she'll either be on the brink of victory or may be defeated only to throw the gates wide open to the White Walkers destroying everybody, if she doesn't become one herself.

The end will probably never live up to the hype. There are only so many possible outcomes for this story the odds are they might end up disappointing the readers.

jowady18 Jun 2017 5:02 p.m. PST

I think GRRM may have reached the point where his books have reached both the point of diminishing returns and obsolescence.

I actually think that GRRM is sick and tired of GoT and these characters. He really wants to move on to his Dunc and Egg series. I think that he realizes that the last two ASOIAF books were basically filler. And I think that he realizes that had he been allowed to proceed with his original plan of a 3 or 4 book series he would have been done by now. But I agree, he has trapped himself.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP19 Jun 2017 5:41 a.m. PST

I no longer care.

Bindon Blood24 Jun 2017 2:42 a.m. PST

I see GRRM as a professional writer, in it for the money (not necessarily a bad thing) but, with the tv series, he has probably made enough money that he no longer has to write, so no longer cares about ASOIAF.

I thought the Dunc and Egg book was just ok, but I would have had the next instalment of ASOIAF.

The Wife has said she will read the rest of the books as and when they come out for completeness' sake. I am not so sure I will. As like many others, I find the tv series much more focussed.

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