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Scafcom1 Supporting Member of TMP16 Jun 2017 5:04 p.m. PST
attilathepun47 Inactive Member16 Jun 2017 8:44 p.m. PST

My God, you beat Tango to the post!

Personal logo BAMeyer Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Jun 2017 10:06 p.m. PST

WTF… hasn't radar been around for 75 years or more?

Chris Wimbrow17 Jun 2017 9:13 a.m. PST

See John Candy vs. Richard Crenna in Summer Rental.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2017 10:04 a.m. PST

The destroyer was damaged on the right side, and the cargo ship was damaged on the left side, so it appears that the ships were going in approximately the same direction.

William Warner17 Jun 2017 11:10 a.m. PST

… Oh, hear us when we cry to thee for those in peril on the sea.

My thoughts are with the lost sailors.

nvdoyle Inactive Member17 Jun 2017 11:15 a.m. PST

Path of the ACX Crystal shows an unplanned u-turn a half-hour before the collision. Damage to both vessels looks more like a t-bone than a sideswipe. 7 sailors are still unaccounted for, divers are going down into the flooded sections of Fitzgerald.


"On the timeline of the merchant ship, one sees obvious anomalies from 0010AM (0410PM UTC)."

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member17 Jun 2017 7:56 p.m. PST

So Filipino cargo ships are now as much a threat as North Korean missiles?

attilathepun47 Inactive Member17 Jun 2017 8:45 p.m. PST


Perhaps more of a threat?

nvdoyle Inactive Member18 Jun 2017 7:56 a.m. PST

All sailors are now accounted for – the Crystal's prow hit a berthing compartment, apparently, and the remains of the missing 7 sailors have been recovered.

Personal logo SBminisguy Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2017 9:17 a.m. PST

Reading another article claims the cargo ship turned off its running lights and transponder. Was this a deliberate ramming attack?

Martin from Canada18 Jun 2017 5:56 p.m. PST

Reading another article claims the cargo ship turned off its running lights and transponder. Was this a deliberate ramming attack?

No need to go full paranoid before all the facts are in.

Lion in the Stars18 Jun 2017 7:45 p.m. PST

A sailor would have to be too stupid to live to turn off their running lights and transponder at night.

Because if this *was* a mere accident, this is exactly what happens when you let [expletives deleted] turn off lights and transponder. Someone runs into you and kills a lot of people.

StarCruiser19 Jun 2017 5:50 p.m. PST

Plus – check the course – sudden about turn – was heading due east, suddenly turns north and then west as the Fitz is passing by.

This is highly likely to be deliberate.

Charlie 12 Inactive Member19 Jun 2017 6:31 p.m. PST

Well, didn't take long for the paranoid rumblings to start. Might want to wait until the facts come out (I know, facts are SO inconvenient…).

BTW, according to one expert in the field, there's one such collision per DAY worldwide.

attilathepun47 Inactive Member19 Jun 2017 9:08 p.m. PST

Third World cargo ships are all too often very poorly maintained and manned by virtually untrained crews. I know of two incidents in which U.S. highway bridges were rammed by foreign ships due to jammed steering mechanisms. In another case of collisions between two ships, it came out that one of them was running at night on autopilot with no qualified ship's officer on bridge duty. Some reports indicate the latter might have been true in this case.

Lion in the Stars20 Jun 2017 10:18 p.m. PST

See my comment regarding sailors too stupid to live, attilathepun.

The sea does not tolerate stupidity like that without killing someone for it.

Charlie 12 Inactive Member22 Jun 2017 5:54 p.m. PST

Unfortunately, its not always the stupid that pays the price (as in this case. And tragically so). We can only hope that the truly stupid will some day get their just rewards…

Martin from Canada24 Jun 2017 3:51 a.m. PST

Looks like the container ship was running on autopilot, and resumed previous course after hitting the USS Fitzgerald and that there was nobody on the bridge when the collision happened.


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