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Winston Smith11 Jun 2017 8:14 a.m. PST

1632 is a fun alternate universe time travel etc novel. A town in West Virginia gets zapped back into "Germany" into the 30 Years War. Much hilarity and battles that wargamers would love to do ensue. Has anyone ever done these battles?
Who hasn't wanted to crash into a pike tercio with a heavily armored dump truck mounting a Ma Deuce? I would think everyone. But who has?

Another gameable scenario involves Evil Croat cavalry raiding the town to destroy the school library. The town is heroically defended by 2nd Amendment Union coal miners, with a last minute Tolkienesque rescue by Heroic (is there any other kind?) Finnish Hakapels light cavalry, lead by Gustavus Adolphus in his Secret Identity. For this battle, our group has a town that would fill a ping pong table, and all the Red Dawn townsfolk one could want.
This is on my bucket list, but it would involve painting overwhelming hordes of Croats and Finns. We do have school busses, by the way.

And now for the serious question. The book has an interminable number of sequels, running the gamut from quite good to awful fanfic. One of the underlying bits is that evildoers like Cardinal Richelieu have sneakily acquired history books of the 30 Years War, so as to avoid mistakes. One side effect is to get Cromwell arrested before…. well, you know.
So. My question is, "Do you have any such books that Richelieu would pay you bags of Louis d'or for?"
I don't think I do. My one book was a book of ECW uniform plates for a project that never got off the ground. I also have a Featherstone Renaissance scenario book somewhere.
What book do you own that would be most useful to those wanting to avoid mistakes?

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP11 Jun 2017 8:34 a.m. PST

Guthrie's two books on TYW battles might be useful but have been much criticized.

I got through the first few books but the author's, a labor organizer, point of view got too pronounced and ended my interest. It would be a cool post apoc framework giving one a chance to mix modern folk with TYW stalwarts.

Ryan T11 Jun 2017 10:11 a.m. PST

1632 was published in 2001 and so Grantsburg must have departed our time sometime in the 1990s (no mention of cell phones or the internet in the first chapter). Thus for a small town library in West Virginia I can think of only two books that might be at hand: C. V. Wedgwood, The Thirty Years' War (1938) and maybe Geoffrey Parker, The Thirty Years' War (1984).

I'd put my money on Wedgewood. But I'd also declare it (and there are not likely to be many copies around) classified at a top secret level and keep it under lock and key.

There might be a few generalized histories of early-modern Europe around too, but these should be easy to gather up as well. (Do they teach European history at all in small town American high schools?)

Porthos11 Jun 2017 1:11 p.m. PST

Peter H. Wilson – The Thirty Years War: Europe's Tragedy. Published in 2011, so far more recent than the others.

And they certainly teach American history in small town Dutch schools ;-))))).

advocate11 Jun 2017 11:26 p.m. PST

I have Wedgwood. And Fullers Decisive Battles of the Western World.

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