"Recce troop/Carrier section oob/to&e 1944" Topic

looking to do a Recce troop for Chain of Command, and am looking for oob/to&e information on troop organisation especially the carrier sections.

Cheers

Jesper

The old Bayonetstrength website used to have details on this, but you'll struggle to find it nowadays.

I believe Carrier patrols were arranged into four sections of three carriers each. Each carrier would have had a Bren, one carrier in each section would have carried a PIAT, and one a 2" mortar.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

EDIT: Just found this:

That's right for Inf Bn carriers, but are you looking for Recce Regt info? Also which period/theatre?

Gary

Recce regiments and Europe from 1944 onwards.

WE ref II/251/2 17th Dec 1943;

Scout Troop HQ -

Orderly (S); motorcycle
Serjeant (S); motorcycle

Armoured car (No.19 set, LMG, AA LMG);
Subaltern (P)
Driver-operator (P)
Driver-mechanic (S)

Carrier (No.19 set, No.18 set, LMG)
Subaltern (P)
2 Driver-operators (2R)
Driver-mechanic (R)

Reconnaissance Section –

Light recce car 1 (LMG)
Corporal (R)
Batman
Driver-mechanic (R)

Light recce car 2 (LMG)
Corporal (R)
Driver-operator
Driver-mechanic (R)

Armoured cars 1+2 each (No.19 set, AA LMG)
Serjeant (P)
Driver-operator (P)
Driver-mechanic (S)

Two carrier sections, each –

Carrier, universal 1 (No.18 set, LMG)
Serjeant (R)
Corporal
Driver-mechanic (R)

Carrier, universal 2 (LMG, 2-inch mortar)
Corporal (R)
Trooper
Driver-mechanic (R)

Carrier, universal 3 (LMG, PIAT)
Corporal (R)
Trooper
Driver-mechanic (R)

P = pistol S = Sten R = rifle. Those with no entry manned LMG.

Amendment of 7th June 1944 added a No.18 set to each LRC.
Amendment of 21st Sep 1944 deleted ref to LMG and AA LMG from armd cars.

Gary

Thanks both of you,

Did the carrier sections in the Recce regiments go to 4 men pr. carrier at any point?

No, that WE remained in use until the war's end.

Gary

Light recce car = jeep?

And armoured car = Daimler or Humber scout car?

I think light recce car could be a White in some units

LRC was the Humber III, Armd car was the Humber IV in 21AG, with Daimler cars largely replacing the Humber IV during the course of the campaign. White scout cars could be found in the Squadron's Assault Troop, which was effectively a larger version of the Motor Platoon.

Gary