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Oldmoustache06 Jun 2017 1:32 p.m. PST

Anyone have reliable information as to the cosmetic nature of a typical orchard?
We're the trees planted in rows?
Was the ground manicured or left wild?
Thank you!

Personal logo Jlundberg Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2017 2:06 p.m. PST

Short answer – it depends.
A well maintained orchard will be in rows with trees evenly spaced and the ground in between cut short.
An abandoned orchard will have vestiges of rows, but irregularly spaced "volunteers," some spaces where trees have died and wild bushes overgrown

Musketier06 Jun 2017 2:10 p.m. PST

From older orchards I've seen, I 'd say larger trees than in modern plantations, set further apart. Could be in rows for larger estates, more likely in skirmish order on individual farms. The ground would be grass for chicken, rabbits and goats to roam over, so most orchards would be walled or enclosed by a fence or hedge.

Oldmoustache06 Jun 2017 2:42 p.m. PST

Pretty much as I expected
There was a rather large "orchard" well south of Aspern and Essling. I expected this one to not me necessarily maintained that well

Thanks guys

Nine pound round06 Jun 2017 6:32 p.m. PST

The trees in older orchards weren't so big back then😉

Oldmoustache06 Jun 2017 6:34 p.m. PST

You guys have a reference ?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2017 11:42 p.m. PST

and there were no apples in Hougoumont on June 18th…except in my model……

grecian195907 Jun 2017 3:19 a.m. PST

Lead flavoured cider after that battle

Rod MacArthur07 Jun 2017 8:17 a.m. PST

I have made some olive groves, which I assume were in the same pattern 200 years ago as every one which I have seen in Spain and Portugal in modern times.

They can be seen on my website (scroll down to last item on this page):
link

I made them in regularly spaced strips of trees, then lay them out so that each row is offset from the one before, to make diagonal lines. Many olive trees are more than 200 years old, so I am sure that this planting pattern is very old.

Rod

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP07 Jun 2017 8:35 a.m. PST

Clever to notice the layout like that. Soon as I see it, I think "Oh Yes, of course".

But not until shown. Could be lead flavoured wine and olive oil, not just cider, after a battle here.

Great scenic basing for dioramas as well as wargames…

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