"Note to self, never piss a Millwall fan off" Topic

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Brave man indeed.

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Brave man indeed.

"The Lion Of London Bridge" is a more apt figure for this event than the kid running away carrying his beer.

Yes, a very brave man indeed!

Such a brave guy . Unreal but antifa have asked the met police for him to be arrested for racist and gbh crimes …

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Dwight,do you have a link for your story? I can't find one.

I did find this from those SJW's, Change.org:

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Romanian Baker smashed one over the head with a bread crate.

Good thing Brexit will keep out those Eastern Europeans!

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heres a facebook link to the antifa outrage , or go to their official twitter page

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Yeah. I'd say "unreal" is definitely the operative word there.

antifa! Never heard of it til now. I won't sleep tonight, I know I'll be raging all night because of the clowns.

Fake news doesn't really interrupt my slumbers.

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^ This.

If you bother to look at the @Officialantifa Twitter feed you will see that it's just trolling to cause some outrage. Which it appears to have had a bit of success with.

We've got antifa in the US as well; unfortunately they have a penchant for violence and suppressing speakers they disagree with, with riots and obstruction.

Well done! A brave man, who did what needed to be done!

Brave man indeed. But I think the incident is just another example of the need for armed, responsible citizens.

"Concealed Carry: Because there might not be a middle-age, bad-ass soccer hooligan around when you need one."

Outnumbered and "outgunned" he showed that the old saying "its not the size of the dog that matters in a fight, its the size of the fight in the dog that matters" is still valid.

My favorite quote:

"Fans of the south London club have long prided themselves on their refusal to duck a fight, celebrating their intimidating reputation with the chant: 'No-one likes us, we don't care.'"

"Learn to run." LOL!

Learn to draw, aim and fire. Now…………..

Amen, Great War Ace. If only they were permitted to defend themselves.

A first step would be to arm the police officers on a regular basis. From what I understand the first responding officers had nothing but batons and guts. One officer attacked with his baton but was slashed bad another tackled one of the terrorist with a rugby tackle and was also badly wounded. Note this is what I have read in the news so I cannot say it is 100% correct. Later armed police showed up and shot the terrorists.

If the first officers had had guns maybe there would have been less casualties. Also the officers would not have injured.

People have said that they want unarmed police officers as Great Britain always have had that. I find that argument weak. Sure it sounds nice and friendly but if the means more killed and injured civilians or officers I do not think it is worth it.

Also having armed officers does not mean they can stil be nice and friendly.

Having armed citizens is another story, here the American and European mind set is very different.

What soledad said. Responsible, armed police would be a great first step.

Soledad, Dentatus, absolutely not! Look at the level of police shootings in the UK and the number of police officers killed on duty and your "weak" argument becomes very strong. We've preserved a police force that is not routinely armed for nearly 2 centuries and a few arseholes are not going to make us change that.

Yes. Why should you change, just because the world has.

Roy Larner is going to by on ISIS's shyt list for the rest of his life (assuming ISIS is around a while). After this he will be in danger of his life. Someone like him should be given a weapon permit if anyone should. But in the UK he'll just have to lump it. He won't even be able to carry a big stick. Someone will report him. Weapons of any description in the UK are verboten. I know this, because two officious persons approached me in Battle, East Sussex, and warned me, "for [my] own benefit", that I could be fined or worse for carrying my blunt reenactment spear and seax through the street to get from my B&B to the battlefield. I knew then, if I didn't know before, that people in England are cooked. This was of course before any ISIS threat or rising jihadism "going public", as it were.

Armed police are a good idea too. Two centuries of unarmed police is a non sequitur when your peaceful realm is being attacked by essentially guerilla fighters who are suicidal maniacs in the bargain……….

As an alternative to arming UK police, training them as Barber Surgeons could help. Supplying them with leaches and bloodletting bowls and branding irons to cauterize wounds makes sense. That's what was have done in the past so that is what they should do now.

I'm glad they declined to switch to using new fangled automobiles and still only travel by horseback. No sense using cellphones or radios when a gold ole' metal whistle will do the trick. Ground anchored hot air balloon make better observation platforms than helicopters.

The cops themselves don't want to be armed…

Donīt change because of a few "a-holes", change it to protect people and the officers.

Two officers were there but could not stop them with their batons, one got seriously injured, sustaining wounds to the face, arms and legs. Other people died. If the officers had been armed none of the officers would have been injured. Others, innocent people, would live.

Officers might not want to carry weapons but if it could protect the public better it is a pretty good option. Why let people die if it can be avoided?

@Mike, surely this type of broad brush dismissal is merely an assertion. There would be plenty of cops glad to carry weapons. There are sheriffs in the US who are anti-gun rights. But they do not comprise anywhere near the general attitude toward citizens owning and using guns. Cops also have personal attitudes all over the spectrum. How could UK cops be any different? The blocs of attitudes will be different; I'd expect more UK cops to be pro gun control than US cops.

Its very much worth noting that aside from the Manchester suicide bomber pretty much all the recent terrorist murders in the UK have been committed with vehicles and knives – the attackers have not even been able to rustle up a shotgun.

I'd also suggest that if the London Bridge attackers had tried that MO a few hours later in any of a number of provincial city centres they probably would have found an equally target rich environment – but with many more young men (and even a few women) sufficiently disinhibited by drugs and alcohol that I suspect the epitaph to all this would be somewhat different – as it would if they had picked the wrong pub and run in to a real firm of football casuals (which are thankfully thinner on the ground these days than they used to be).

As policeman in the 1950s, my father carried a gun far more often than my brother did in the 1980s and 90s

The Met has always been willing to arm some of its officers just not all.

But on the whole more guns on this street (regardless of who is carrying them) is in my opinion a bad thing