"Killing England: The Brutal Struggle for American ..." Topic

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"The breathtaking latest installment in Bill O'Reilly and Martin Dugard's mega-bestselling Killing series transports readers to the most important era in our nation's history, the Revolutionary War. Told through the eyes of George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and Great Britain's King George III, Killing England chronicles the path to independence in gripping detail, taking the reader from the battlefields of America to the royal courts of Europe. What started as protest and unrest in the colonies soon escalated to a world war with devastating casualties. O'Reilly and Dugard recreate the war's landmark battles, including Bunker Hill, Long Island, Saratoga, and Yorktown, revealing the savagery of hand-to-hand combat and the often brutal conditions under which these brave American soldiers lived and fought. Also here is the reckless treachery of Benedict Arnold and the daring guerilla tactics of the "Swamp Fox" Frances Marion. A must read, Killing England reminds one and all how the course of history can be changed through the courage and determination of those intent on doing the impossible"
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Amicalement
Armand

I wasn't aware that we had indeed killed England; profound regrets to all involved.

Best regards, and continued regrets… Mark

"…reckless treachery…" Anybody tell that to Benedict? Lots and lots of hyperbole. I wonder how much history?

I've not read any of the other books in the series, so can't comment.

Bill O'Reilly is an expert on everything. Didn't you get the memo?

Horrible title.

Sorry to hear about England being killed. Did Scotland and Wales survive?

Bill O'Reilly the original egocentric narcissist. I guess he really needs the money now. But he got a sweet severance package.

1. The title is ridiculous.
2. O'Reilly is no one's idea of an historian.
3. There are plenty of relatively recent, good, overviews of the AWI done by reputable historians.

But since Bill lost his show, maybe he needs the money.

Glup!…

Amicalement
Armand

O'Reilly's books have done really well like him or not.
Mark

Yes they have. For folks like us they are generally light reading. I found the last book on the Pacific to be pretty good. Many details I was not aware of about the Emperor. Over all most of the Killing books I have enjoyed. I do agree poor title on the newest one.

I hope that these books generate some interest in the public at large in history. They certainly have sold well.

Thanks,

John

The books in the "killing" series don't pretend to be works of history. They are all a great read and certainly add enough bits of knowledge to make them all interesting. Yes, they are all best sellers, for a good reason. They are fun and interesting books. The title is such to let the reader know they ar part of the series, which have all had such a title. I have read them all and will certainly pick this up during my next business trip. I assure you it will be a better read than the in flight magazine.

If these books aren't meant to be history than what are they? Propaganda? Won't most readers mistake it for history? As someone who believes history is under assualt from all directions I find this troubling.

Good question!.

Amicalement
Armand

There is a place for this level of history, especially for younger readers who might not have encountered these topics before. When I was a young reader, my school library had a series called "We Were There….". Always involved two children, a boy and a girl, who experienced whatever the topic was for that book. I remember "We Were there at Pearl Harbor" and "We Were There at Yorktown." And there were many others. I have no doubt that those books really fired my interest in history and eventually in miniature gaming too. Where are kids today going to find these types of books if not for these types of things.

I don't think O'Reilly's books are intended for children.

Really? You are incorrect. He has multiple books out for kids. They are based on the killing series and have been very popular.

Thanks.

I know he has kids books out but I don't think the killing books themselves are age appropriate. Come to think of it, him writing books for kids, sounds kind of creepy now.

If these books aren't meant to be history than what are they? Propaganda? Won't most readers mistake it for history? As someone who believes history is under assualt from all directions I find this troubling.

Excellent posting and I agree with you completely.

Maybe someone will write a fact-based book on O'Reilly's firing? It could be entitled 'Killing O'Reilly.'

How about "Killing Truth", staring every politician and hollywood type.

I would like to read it. I love O'Reilly's books, and this is sure to be good.
Not to mention if it includes Long Island, Brandywine, Monmouth and Cowpens then I will most certainly buy it.

Don't waste your money. There are better books by actual historians of the period.

+1 Brechtel198

+1 Glengarry5

FYI none of the books are actually written by O'Reilly.

I wonder how much he pays Dugard for doing all of the work…

Everything O'Reilly has his hands in is propaganda (or sexual harassment)
He can't go to the can with out some sort of propaganda propose.

A book is good because it sells well? Particularly a purported history book?

Is this the same TMP as the TMP with the diatribes on historical films?

"Oh my God, they killed England!!"

Brechtel198

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Hmmmm…they must have forgot to tell us we're dead…

The title was purposefully picked to go along with his "Killing X" series. Don't take it personally. I've never read any of his books and came away less than thoroughly entertained.

I wouldn't be surprised OReilly has a ghost writer for these books. Tom Clancy used ghost riders outside of his novels.

Why would he need a ghost writer? He already credits Dugard as a co author on the cover.
And when he was on the air, he credited Dugard with the research etc.

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Should it not be called `Killing the United Kingdom`
Coming from Scotland and a member of the SNP it annoys me greatly how so many folk seem to think the UK and England are interchangeable, they are not.

Not the United Kingdom until 1801; before that, two separate kingdoms – Great Britain and Ireland.

Even then, England has stood for what today we are more accustomed to call the 'UK' or '[Great] Britain' until comparitively recently and- abroad, well, ppfff…

"Killing England" is plainly wrong as a title, far too many English people seem to think that Scotland is part of England, no wonder we want to leave the UK.
UK was formed by the act of Union by the two Kingdoms of Scotland and England. The true Kingdom of Ireland ceased to exist in the 16th century, the one the English claimed to occupy was fabricated by themselves for their own ends to enslave the Catholic population who lived there.
Check it out.