"Achaemenid Persians & Scythians from the Tatarli Tumulus" Topic
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Druzhina | 26 May 2017 10:44 p.m. PST |
I have collected some images of Paintings of Achaemenid Persians & Scythians from the Tatarli Tumulus, a Lydian tomb chamber built around 470 B.C. in southern Phrygia, but there were not many images of the Scythians.
Reproduction of Achaemenid Persian cavalry, Tatarli Tumulus, Lydian tomb, Phrygia, c.470 BC Reproduction of Achaemenid Persian chariot, Tatarli Tumulus, Lydian tomb, Phrygia, c.470 BC Reproduction of Achaemenid Persian infantry defeating Scythians, Tatarli Tumulus, Lydian tomb, Phrygia, c.470 BC Compare the chariot to a model of Achaemenid Persian Gold Chariot, Oxus Treasure, British Museum Does anyone have more images of the original wooden beams or reproductions? Mirror site: Paintings of Achaemenid Persians & Scythians from the Tatarli Tumulus, a Lydian tomb chamber built around 470 B.C. in southern Phrygia Druzhina Scythians, Saka and Sarmatian Illustrations of Costume and Soldiers and Pazyryk Culture, Yuezhi, Parthians, White Huns, Hephthalites and Alchon Huns |
BigRedBat | 27 May 2017 1:22 a.m. PST |
Lovely- thanks for showing that! |
GarrisonMiniatures | 27 May 2017 1:37 a.m. PST |
Interesting figure wearing robes actually fighting as opposed to being court dress. |
gavandjosh02 | 27 May 2017 5:19 a.m. PST |
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Swampster | 28 May 2017 3:56 a.m. PST |
There is a Munich museum site with some of the beams though not very clear link The Louvre's Achemenet link has some slightly better pictures of the beams, though taken from the same Munich museum. The previous version of this had far better pictures IIRC, but I can't get them on wayback. link has some good pics of the Anatolians with their distinctive weapons and large shields. The Skythians are a bit clearer on this, link but not much.
It'd be interesting to read the catalogue which was produced for the exhibition. I wonder if at least som eof the colours – especially the blue – has been used as an undercoat to make other colours applied over it stand out, especially against a raw wood background.. This has been the case in some other cases (though statues IIRC). |
bilsonius | 28 May 2017 9:15 a.m. PST |
The archers appear to be using the 'Eastern' thumb-ring release, with the arrow on the 'outside' of the bow. Presumably the middle fingers of the left hand would move at the moment of release. |
Druzhina | 29 May 2017 10:47 p.m. PST |
Thanks Swampster, I will add some images. Was your 4th link supposed to be the same as the 3rd? The beams held in the Munich museum were returned to Turkey, a number of years ago, when they were found to be the missing beams. Druzhina Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers |
gavandjosh02 | 30 May 2017 4:42 a.m. PST |
Thanks both Druzhina and Swampster |
TKindred | 30 May 2017 5:13 a.m. PST |
Swampster: There is also a school of thought among some Macedonian and Greek history scholars that the blue and orange/rust colors denote iron and bronze, respectively. I am not committed to this line of reasoning as yet, but those who support it make an interesting case. |
Swampster | 02 Jun 2017 1:54 a.m. PST |
The blue won't be representing iron in this particular case. It is being used on fabric and horses. Oddly, the small view of a long scene shows sections in white or tan which are blue on the close ups, e.g. chariot body, "ruler's" quiver and one of the horses. |
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