"Why is Skirmish not availabe in the US?" Topic

Not up for preorder on the US GW site. But in all the other countries I've looked it is.

Because the GW USA stuff is on USA time and the rest of the World is ahead of that.

It's because GW are British and dont like Americans.

No it's because GW don't like arrogant US customers…

See, now it is:

link

And only $10. USD

Is it just me, or does this look like a direct response to Frostgrave?

It is just you.

Does anybody know if Woodstock elves will be a playable faction in Skirmish?

"Please note, you'll need a copy of the Warhammer Age of Sigmar core rules (available as a free download) to use this book."

That's submoronic. Why wouldn't they just work the AoS rules in? What, maybe two page's worth? Are they afraid if they do, I'm not going to go out and buy the AoS rules? THEY'RE ALREADY FREE.

They wisely included them in the General's Handbook, so here why do they have to leave it to me to have to guess what's different between the full rules and the skirmish rules?

I don't buy GW products, so it is a non-issue for me.

"Please note, you'll need a copy of the Warhammer Age of Sigmar core rules (available as a free download) to use this book."

I didn't even see that. They make it seem like it's a stand alone game. That should be made apparent.

It is stand-alone, except for a couple of pages of free rules that they could have just as easily been woven into the skirmish rules.

The notion that the skirmish rules expound upon the existing mass skirmish rules need not mean that they have to be kept separate. In the time it would take to tell you how these rules differed (such as with the morale rules), they could just give you the new rules and be done with it.

If, back in the day, they'd released Necromunda as a supplement to 2nd edition 40K, that would have made a lot more sense- but thankfully, they made it 100% strand-alone.

Warhammer had a skirmish book out years and years before Frostgrave was even thought of.

The rules were not printed in the Kharadron Overlords book either… They were in all the previous AoS books IIRC. This makes me think that they may be planning to publish a new update to the rules with clarifications and maybe changes.

And really, people?!?! Complaining about free rules not being included? LOL!

NOT that they're not included. They are a MOD of the AoS rules. Since they are not trying to get me to go out and buy the base rules for a whopping $0 USD, there is little reason not to just factor them into the skirmish rules, which they ARE selling.

We've all seen scads of house mods (usually to other periods) of other published rulsets that give you the "exceptions" without the rules, since they don't own the rights and/or don't want to give away something that the rights-holder is trying to make money on. the mental 'cutting and pasting' can be a bit aggravating, but it's all perfectly reasonable under the circumstances. If GW were charging for AoS and NOT AoS:S, then that would make perfect sense.

Since none of that applies here, and at most a page worth of AoS will be used in AoS:S, what's the point? If I have no interest in the original, larger-scale system, why make me have to fool with it at all?

This makes me think that they may be planning to publish a new update to the rules with clarifications and maybe changes.

So then are you suggesting that Skirmish would represent an updated version of the base rules? So why would they even want to make you reference the older rules at all?

The skirmish rules are based on the core rules. Keeping those core rules out of the more recent books means there wont be outdated rules printed in the book when they are changed and published to the GW website. Just my theory.

Also they have decentralized this rules set… They can update datasheets and even the core rules and post them on their website when changes are needed. The points costs are contained in a separate book which is to be published each year.

I think this is much better than suffering through a mistake or imbalance in an army book for years while waiting for it to be republished.

Either way, this ruleset is all of ten bucks. That's loss-leader territory for GW. I WILL buy it, but if it were superseded in a year's time, even *I* wouldn't complain.

I see the exclusion as a non-issue. As mentioned above, updates will be online.