"Have you been enticed back by GW lately?" Topic

was into it years ago when my boys were young. Then with the boys growing out of it, the ridiculous high prices and the gimmick of constantly changing the rules and codexes to force people to buy new figures, I had enough. I have also never liked the rules. As an historical gamer I can't reconcile myself to the arbitrary rules and how they affect the troops. I don't agree with the concept of giving a figure a saving roll after all the work put in to getting a hit.

Christopher:

No problem – just trying to make people with large "Olde World" collections of figures essentially abandoned by GW (like me) that there is a way to use them – though in a more Fantistoical game (Knights and Knaves).

Understand some folks reluctance to try DBX – we have modernized and removed lots of the abstraction in troop types and improved presentation which seems to have broadened the player base.

Never could get past the lack of formations in Lion Rampant or the odd reduction system so never bothered with Dragon Rampant. Though the activation system had some potential. Can't afford the odd dice for Saga.

Thomas J. Thomas
Fame and Glory Games

I thought I was being enticed but now I'm not so sure. After the better part of a decade of purchasing no new GW material free I purchased Shadow War Armageddon and the new version Necromunda. I played Shadow War once and haven't played Necromunda yet. I admit I was turned off when playing Necromunda the way I did in the past turned out to mean a $100 USD boxed set followed by the purchase of a series of $30 USD magazines.

I shouldn't have been surprised. My love for Necromunda will probably mean that I'll purchase all the "Gang Wars" eventually but I've not read much yet to convince me that the new edition is better than the Yaktibe "NCE" version of the classic game.

As for the rest of the GW universe…
Still got my 40k stuff and every couple of years I drag it out for a massive game using the 1st edition Warpath booklet. Also have a KoW army largely comprised of GW/Battlemasters figures but I have zero interest in AoS.

No. Not been enticed back at all. Every thing they do seems to put me off.

Walked past "Warhammer" store the other day for a look. Closed. As usual when I venture past. Closed Mondays and Tuesdays. They recently moved (again!) this time down a nearby alley. Biggest marketing fail ever is their rebranding, a dingy alley with a dark blue sign with nearly illegible lettering. A big bright Games Workshop sign would have been a smart move to bring in passing trade. Unless you go down the alley, your never going to find them.

A few metal figs seem to be popping up, like the necromunda characters (the good ones from the 90s). I wont hold my breath, it was probably because they smelt a buck and doing them in "finecast" would be too troublesome.

And on necromunda, it looks too boardgamey with the cards. The figures look too different, unrealistic. They had a chance there, but no.

I know warhammer was a round base job to begin with, but the regimental look and style is what made it great. Mordheim should have filled the skirmish box nicely.

Basically all the regular gripes. Price, plastic, poses, thin snappy bits, paint range confusion, resin, bad resin, rebranding, AOS…

Can I now add flying fish? I really want too!

I know slannesh had sort of flying rays, but they were demons. This new stuff (if it is new) is ridiculous. For a underwater spin off, ok, but dwarfs Vs flying fish???

I now feel their rebranding is the least of their issues.

(Ps. Just saw the flying turtle???…and flying shark, asylum have a lot to answer for)

No, I got back with the heresy three years ago, didn't buy much, then my usal playbase got more kids and less time so I had to make a minor spending in GW shops in order to play. Hate AoS, love 8th with its Dstrength nerf. I play the new specialist games with the old rules 'cause that's what I've got.
Don't know in your area but around here people play only 40k/AoS in the shop, I've seen necromundas sold but not a single game. The separate rules in a magazine is clearly vet milking to me, I'll pass.

Prices are expensive sure, but they have to maintain a shop infraestructure unlike other companies, and since said shop provides me with games unlike historicals it's a no brainer where to put the money.

The era of wonderful GW box sets seems to be back. I haven't been tempted because of the amount of chaos in some sets, but then they did Forgebane, Renegade, and the new AoS boxed sets. My son bought Forgebane and gave me the Necrons.

I won't get Renegade because I really can't use giant them, good deal or not. And I like what I see of Soul Wars, but they won't really fit with my LotR figures. But I like these sets for the same reason I liked the old ones.

But even though their rules are moving towards simplicity, I'm still playing with the One Page Rules games. I don't like special rules, and I prefer alternating activation for most things.

andy

I guess my summary is that they are enticing me, but not all the way in. It wouldn't really be "back" as far as the main games go, though. I have been into LotR and most of the specialist games in the past.

andy

When I ran a gaming store 1983-2001 we initially carried GW. The moment that they chose to sell directly and pulled out of the distribution network I dropped their line and have never looked back. I found GW to simply be a huge pain in the backside for poor margins. I was able to expand my offerings of US made figures and saw my sales increase having done so.

Could be a little different 17 years later, IDK.

Swore them off in 1994…after they dropped necromunda.

I'm back now with new version and bought blackstone fortress.

Still no. I even got large armies of elves and Eldar plus other odds and ends for free. And I will sell them dirt cheap at the next convention.

I still see no appeal.

Unless you are keen on plastic.

They had it going well in the 90s with entire metal ranges and plastic grunts as an option.

Also, these days there are so many other companies and games around. Once you grow up and discover the appeal of history (if you had not already), much of which GW is based upon, it gives them even more competition. At least historical armies don't make a habit of changing over night.

I haven't played any GW for years, but recently started building GW models again – because I was working on some other figures, and missed the experience of working with GW plastics, so I dug up some of the Horus Heresy sets that I had picked up a few years back and then not built…

I'll be back to GW when -

– Pigs fly.

– They stop seeting an industry standard for garish, overdecortaed military equipment that minor players ( Yes, earcradle you ) try to copy.

– The "grimdark" obsesssion that 'everyone is evil and corrupt' goes away from both rules and business management practices.

– they start workign in 6mm/Epic agian.

– Forge World gets the artistic freedom they had in the early 200s again.

Well I was lured back. Not sure why. I am still bitter about losing warhammer fantasy 8th ed. Guess enough time went past for me to lose my resolve against GW.

Early 200s? Wow such an ancient company!

After not buying anything new from GW in quite a few years I have bought Deathwatch Overkill, Battle of Pelennor Fields and Blackstone Fortress in the last year.

So I guess I have been enticed back…

Nope and never again. Their business model and pricing baffles me.

The prices are that high in order to maintain the stores