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Tango0117 May 2017 11:47 a.m. PST

Really nice!
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Guillaume deGuy Supporting Member of TMP17 May 2017 12:10 p.m. PST

They are lovely figures but to me they appear more mid to late nineteenth century.

CeruLucifus17 May 2017 7:31 p.m. PST

I was thinking the same thing.

Marc at work18 May 2017 12:10 a.m. PST

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Seems good to me based on this picture dated 1600

The trousers especially.

What is it that looks 19th century?

Guillaume deGuy Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2017 4:37 a.m. PST

The woman with the bonnet in particular.
Your image does appear to be a good match, however.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian18 May 2017 5:06 a.m. PST

I have been asked if these are plastic figures. Does anyone here know?

Marc the plastics fan Inactive Member18 May 2017 8:25 a.m. PST

Metal

Marc the plastics fan Inactive Member18 May 2017 8:27 a.m. PST

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I reckon these are useful figures

Marc the plastics fan Inactive Member18 May 2017 8:28 a.m. PST

Sorry. Meant to add metal, but 1/72 so plastic compatible

Scharnachthal Inactive Member18 May 2017 9:06 a.m. PST

I agree with Guillaume de Guy. The trousers are not specifically 17th century. Like trousers are part of many a traditional costume to this day. Same goes for the hats. Style looks more like 20th century men's hats to me. The anachronistic hairstyle (hair cut short) is another point that adds to this impression.

Absolutely agree on Guillaume de Guy's opinion concerning the female's bonnet. This style is definitely not 17th century but 18th century at the earliest. Headscarves weren't that typical of 17th century female attire either. Check out the contemporary paintings.


Marc the plastic fan
Your picture shows females dressed as was typical of the 2nd half of the 18th century, so they are not useful for the TYW or ECW period.

Marc the plastics fan Inactive Member18 May 2017 11:23 a.m. PST

I welcome your comments. The picture comes from a quick google search "peasants 1600 bonnet "

Happy to see other more representative pictures. That is what this vibrant hobby is about. Sharing best information

Guillaume deGuy Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2017 12:31 p.m. PST

Marc, I agree! This is a vibrant hobby and sharing information is about the only way any of us can grasp even a fraction there is to know. I am hardly an authority on clothing (OK – I watch Project Runway) just sharing what to me was the overall look and feel of the figures.

Besides the woman, the men's coats seem a bit long and don't seem to flair out at the waist as many illustrations show in the first half of the 17th century.

Incidently, I have gotten in trouble many times with Google image search.
Look carefully at the dates on the black and white line drawings of the women. :-)

Scharnachthal Inactive Member18 May 2017 12:54 p.m. PST

Civilians just a few very helpful links. Check them out…

https://lhresources.wordpress.com

https://the1642goodwyfe.wordpress.com

Deuce03 Inactive Member18 May 2017 6:55 p.m. PST

The coats on the men look rather post-Restoration. You'd expect a civilian from before 1650 to wear a doublet and maybe a cloak, or a shirt and cloak, rather than a frock coat.

The Bavarian22 May 2017 1:58 a.m. PST

The source for the sculpting was a painting from the 17th century. The accident in the 30YW was in winter, so they have wintergear.

Massimo sculpted exactly after the source (painting).

cheers
uwe

Marc the plastics fan Inactive Member22 May 2017 2:30 a.m. PST

Thanks Uwe. I thought it might be. I wonder how much civilian (read peasant) attire really changed over the years. Fascinating.

Would love to see the source picture

Marc

Scharnachthal Inactive Member22 May 2017 5:48 a.m. PST

Would love to see the source picture

Me too.

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