Tango01 | 15 May 2017 9:37 p.m. PST |
… border to stem flow of migrants. "The interior ministers of Germany and Italy have written to Brussels urging the creation of an "EU Mission" at the border between Libya and Niger "as soon as possible," after over 40,000 people traveled through the North African country into Europe this year. "The first months of this year have shown that our efforts up to this point have been insufficient. We must prevent hundreds of thousands of people who are in the hands of smugglers from risking their lives in Libya and the Mediterranean,"said a letter penned by ministers Thomas de Maiziere and Marco Minniti, dated May 11, but reported by news agencies citing Italian officials on Sunday. The letter reportedly states that by the middle of last month, some 42,500 newcomers had been registered in Italy, a figure 40 percent higher than last year. Ninety-seven percent said they had come through Libya…" Main page link Amicalement Armand |
goragrad | 15 May 2017 10:47 p.m. PST |
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Gaz0045 | 15 May 2017 11:47 p.m. PST |
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Chokidar | 16 May 2017 2:44 a.m. PST |
Then let them… interesting the way taking action in Europe now means writing to the Commission in the hope some other poor sod will do it for you… (this of course from the country that claimed it was "unrealistic to expect it to pay 2% of GDP on its own defence and that in evaluating its contribution to Nato its humanitarian spending should also be taken into consideration – which will do us all an awful lot of effing good if Vlad the lad tries to pull something… You do have to wonder where these people have stuffed their heads… I suspect it would be hours rather than days before any force on the Niger Libya border would start coming under attack from every and apprentice martyr under the sun… |
Dye4minis | 16 May 2017 10:31 a.m. PST |
Unless you live in the EU, you probably have no real idea of how many immigrants are there and the problems they impose upon the countries. Best to stem the flow at the choke point (Libya)and try to create conditions more favorable to keeping them on their own continent. Not a return to colonialism by any means! Germany nd Italy are most affected. Some idea of some problems being encountered: When charity groups offered food and clothing to the new immigrants, they refused them. The clothes and blankets were not "new"; the food stuffs were not from their own country! (I kid you NOT!)They wanted money to buy their own but not work for it! Why would any country want to colonize a country who's population refuses to work to help themselves? (with very few exceptions….) |
Chokidar | 16 May 2017 10:59 a.m. PST |
Would not disagree with you Dye4..although the situation in Germany is to a large degree self-inflicted whereas Italy has simply suffered. And even sifting out the fake news the incidents you mention are horribly widespread and merely the tip of the iceberg. Libya may well be a choke point but I have a sneaking suspicion that plonking any form of force down on the southern Libyan border is just asking for trouble.. especially as Libya's other borders are porous and anarchic. Sealing off the Libyan coast might be a more viable option, although it would not stop the endless flood northwards. |
Tango01 | 16 May 2017 10:59 a.m. PST |
Sadly truth… Amicalement Armand
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goragrad | 16 May 2017 1:40 p.m. PST |
Actually one of the motivations for a fair bit of Colonialism was that the locals weren't up to solving their own problems and that more advanced nations had a duty to do it for them. Not all Colonialism was a land and resource grab. |
Khusrau | 17 May 2017 2:38 a.m. PST |
Hmm.. I do hope Chokidar isn't from a country that only just manages to reach 2% by some very creative accounting, such as civilian ex-employee pensions being accounted for in the 2% ? I also really thought we had got past the point of posting justifications for colonialism? |
SouthernPhantom | 19 May 2017 5:52 p.m. PST |
As politically incorrect as it is to point this out currently, Africa has not exactly done well when it comes to managing its own affairs. |
Bangorstu | 20 May 2017 1:38 a.m. PST |
Helping out countries isn't colonialism – the point is the area is very very large and Nigers' armed forces are small and engaged in fighting Boko Haram. But the best thing to do would be to get the Libyans functioning as a state and then they could do it themselves. |