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Black Cavalier13 May 2017 9:09 p.m. PST

Has anyone tried creating Arawn's and the Horned Kong's forces from the Chronicles of Prydain?

Anyone remember any details of their forces? I know they had the Cauldron Born, which at least in the movie, were armored skeletons. Any other specific troop types? Or any heraldry or livery that could be used?

I'm thinking about starting an undead army and am looking for a good theme.

Thanks for the help

David Johansen13 May 2017 10:08 p.m. PST

Okay, the movie absolutely stunk and shouldn't be used to reference anything. Gurgi is a terrifying sasquatch and Flewder Flam is the second greatest warrior king in Prydain and in many ways more frightening than Gwydon because Gwydon won't take cheap shots. The huntsmen of Annuvian are warrior cultists who's blood rites make them stronger as members of the band die.

So let's see here, the Cauldron Born are indestructible, they don't decay or rot or lose their flesh from their bones. I'd probably look for some Old Glory Celts for the sake of crude sculpts and unnatural poses, paint their skin a dull greenish grey, and give them vertigrised coper weapons. for Huntsmen I'd use Wargames Factory Germanic tribesmen with fur cloaks and perhaps a wolf motif for tattoos and shields. Gthwaints are vulture like raptors. I think Eureaka might have the Vultures used in Fantacide. They might not be big enough though.

For the human armies I'd go with a mix of Celts and Saxons and not too much armor or cavalry. The Free Commots are a peasant rabble army that would be interesting to model. Wargames Factory Germans might be a good starting point.

Jakar Nilson13 May 2017 10:37 p.m. PST

From the descriptions in the books, Gurgi was around the size of a young teenager (a bit smaller than Taran, not that the assistant pig-keeper ever gets any actual physical description in the books). A lot of people envision him as a chimpanzee, but I see him as a wildman, a wodewose.

One thing that struck me as odd (mainly given how many depictions of zombies and animated skeletons in media) was that no one in Prydain ever considered chopping off the limbs of the Cauldron Born. All the combat descriptions have them being pierced, with living people declaring that such strikes would have felled a normal person, which they simply shrug off.

David Johansen14 May 2017 11:30 a.m. PST

No, Gurgi hunches over a lot and has a very small and cowardly personality. Most people are terrified when they first see him. I may have to go re-read and make citations. I don't see him as being hulking or broad, more like a big bipedal Irish Wolfhound, long, lean, and hairy.

Logain16 May 2017 8:03 a.m. PST

Some Heraldary I remember-

Free Commots : White Pig
Caer Cadarn: Black Bear on Red
Sons of Don: Golden sunburst
Pwyll: Red Hawk

Annuvin: Cauldron Born, Huntsmen, Gwythaints, dark ages horse, dark age infantry. Sorcerers are mentioned many times, so there might be lesser ones not named in the books.

Armor is rarely mentioned or used other then helmets and shields. Weapons are spears, swords knives and bows. The militia have pole arms.

Free people: Post-Roman horse and infantry (Don), dark age horse and infantry, Free Commots rag-tag militia, Bards, Fair-folk (assorted elves, dwarves, gnomes etc)., wolves and other animals.

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