Legion 4 | 09 May 2017 3:17 p.m. PST |
Can't get to Khurasan on their Tripod link ? And On Facebook I can't find their online Catalogue ? WDF ? |
Bashytubits | 09 May 2017 3:27 p.m. PST |
I get a maintenance halt on his webstore. Means he is gone for a while or trying to catch up his orders. |
Skeptic | 09 May 2017 3:32 p.m. PST |
It would be nice for planning purposes if he would simply disable purchases, while enabling continued access to the rest of his website's content. |
Legion 4 | 09 May 2017 3:48 p.m. PST |
Well he is always going on a maint halt it seems ? I've been awaiting some 6mm Sci-fi he posted pics of the Greens. About for 3 years. I was telling some guys on FB about all the 6mm sci-fi available. And wanted post the link … but no joy. I did post a number of other manufactures links … so nothing more for me to do … |
KJdidit | 09 May 2017 4:10 p.m. PST |
He had some flooding damage at home (where he keeps his inventory), so needed to get everything ship-shape before letting orders pile up again – according to a FB post a week or so back. |
(Major Disaster) | 09 May 2017 4:19 p.m. PST |
@Legion 4 Waiting 3 years, eh? Don't hold your breath. I've given up on him releasing so many minis he teased years ago. Besides, there are plenty of other (better) 6mm minis available from more reliable sellers. |
Legion 4 | 09 May 2017 4:23 p.m. PST |
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Editor in Chief Bill | 09 May 2017 5:18 p.m. PST |
Why buy from a creep when you have good alternatives? |
Mako11 | 09 May 2017 5:43 p.m. PST |
Yea, a pity about ALL the stuff that was prototyped and hyped, but never produced. I get you Bill, but he/his sculptors does/do produce some superb stuff, so…….. I wouldn't want to have a beer with the guy, but I might buy more of his minis. Happens all the time on the production halts, which is a shame. Seems to me he should just post a note, or disable the shopping cart, instead of totally making his products disappear. |
Buckeye AKA Darryl | 09 May 2017 7:15 p.m. PST |
Wow, Bill, if one of us said that we would be dawghoused. Personally, the "creep" has always done right by me. Never really saw the issues here (meaning I didn't pay attention to them) but I also know that there are definitely two sides and I have seen inconsistency from the editor. And yes, I have always said "Bill's site, Bill's rules"…just would like to see all rules applied equally, no matter who owns the site. Mako – Sounds like he did post a note on FB? And as for disabling the shopping cart, because he uses PayPal I think he would have to do each product, a massive undertaking. |
gundog | 09 May 2017 7:22 p.m. PST |
Lots of things happen in real life, I've ordered at least a dozen times with no problems whatsoever. let's cut a guy a break and play nice. |
chuck05 | 09 May 2017 7:44 p.m. PST |
I agree with Gundog. I posted a question on the facebook page and got in answer within the hour The guy is a creep because he had some unforeseen troubles or perhaps his real job took precedence over his hobby? |
Twoball Cane | 09 May 2017 8:19 p.m. PST |
Fawning over his website is what made me abandon 28mm and take the 15mm plunge several years ago….. No regrets. He does the halt for one reason or other I have noted…but usually to catch up on orders. He has released so much and possibly forgot others….or whatever. He always reopens down the road. |
Silurian | 09 May 2017 8:30 p.m. PST |
Always been prompt, decent and polite in all my dealings with him. |
Stealth1000 | 09 May 2017 11:10 p.m. PST |
I have never had any problems. My orders were always fine. He was the one who converted me to 15mm sci-fi too. I have been doghoused here for saying less then you just did Bill. All the banning of people round here is why I don't come over here as much these days. |
Legion 4 | 10 May 2017 8:14 a.m. PST |
I've posted on FB and emailed direct … many times … he never replied. Maybe one of you here could email or post on FB. "When will 6mm Jasmine Throne be released ?" But don't say I asked. I think he does not like me ! Why buy from a creep when you have good alternatives?
Call me a "collector" of 6mm Sci-fi Aliens … I have so many of them in my forces/collection/Universe. I feel I need to add some J/Throne to my L4-verse. Call me crazy ! |
PrivateSnafu | 10 May 2017 10:02 a.m. PST |
Sometimes businesses just can't reply. Try posting ceaselessly on Apples forums. "when will the next iphone be released?" |
Patrick Sexton | 10 May 2017 10:24 a.m. PST |
All of my business transactions with him have gone well and all his product has arrived, intact and of very high quality. I never paid attention to whatever great transgression he committed, just as I do not pay any attention to the myriad great transgressions that have happened before or since. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 10 May 2017 10:35 a.m. PST |
Wow, Bill, if one of us said that we would be dawghoused. Personally, the "creep" has always done right by me. Never really saw the issues here (meaning I didn't pay attention to them) but I also know that there are definitely two sides and I have seen inconsistency from the editor. And yes, I have always said "Bill's site, Bill's rules"…just would like to see all rules applied equally, no matter who owns the site. He's a creep – that's a proven fact. His posting history here and on Frothers cannot be denied, including his anti-Semitism and his persecution of my staff members. I just hope karma gives him a good, swift kick. |
alien BLOODY HELL surfer | 10 May 2017 11:03 a.m. PST |
I've seen his sock puppet act and bad mouthing other companies using them – and singing Khurusans praises at the same time (not cricket old boy) but I've not seen any of the anti-semitism or persecution of TMP staff members – but I may have missed it. Says something when any post of his on Frothers gets a slew of vitriol about him and his antics – normally condensed into NSFW phrases admittedly. |
Hazza31B | 10 May 2017 11:40 a.m. PST |
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Hafen von Schlockenberg | 10 May 2017 2:37 p.m. PST |
So it's no longer Dawghousable if the person is "really" what I call him? Interesting. . . |
Grumpy Monkey | 10 May 2017 6:21 p.m. PST |
Ahh they hypocrisy of Dear Leader. Now remember you can call anyone anything now…as long as they "really" are. |
Micropanzer | 10 May 2017 7:20 p.m. PST |
you know as a 15mm manufacture -- I don't care that he trolled my product as a sock puppets a couple of times or suggested his minis are better as a sock puppet – it drove me to prove my product -- What I do care about is the decline of TMP as a resource to reach target audience, TMP as a place to share ideals and show off minis drama free as well as increase revenue for my family. #only reason I keep at it -GOD FAMILY CUSTOMERS – The fact I asked about reinstating my banner as an advertising member and since no response have given up, and as an former advertiser having slow posting and limited presence, have not pushed …. Realizing don't wait till last moment to post for next dat sell or scheduled posting in advance. Don't get me wrong TGN doesn't even post my news as I am so macro. As a customer of Khurasan – I have always gotten what I ordered – sometimes fast sometimes slow. I love TMP overall -esp tango – he is more useful than your employees – pay him – I love 15mm and can honestly say since the whole drama of khurasan, TMP 15mm is not as good a resource as it used to be, only the market place makes membership worth it -- I can always sell 1$ painted figures. I find it totally odd that he (khurasan) is a shadow figure and it is unclear who he really is -Larry, John – I have meet in person most my fellow 15mm US based manufactures and are on a first name basis with a lot, worked with also be it sculpting, painting, 3d printing, but he seems like the elusive man always there to 1 up you and then get offended when you offer a non mini that he offers or use an artist that he used and they give company A and B a look that is similar-- happens all too often in 15mm sci fi--aka cool hand -- but has no problem using your artist or releasing a similar product the same week you do. When you see customers selling off minis you sold them because of TMP, Clear horizon, Khurasan, armies army Drama and all you think is ahh the one mini you painted out of the 30 you bought looks awesome sad to see you get out of 15mm, so want to see what your vision for my product was…. not to mention you are selling lower than I can. soooo 2013i need to get over myself …. now it is 2017 lets all move on…. lets get over ourselves and figure out how to bring 15mm out of the closet because 15mm halo has not… 2012 tomorrows war did not -- TM2 still hoping or a FonF sci fi -- you want minis for it I got plenty to build upon.what is your % .Micropanzer minis cant do it alone but perhaps GZG or ion age can but with CMG selling off I wonder, as I always thought if only i was CMG -Rules, minis, terrain. grass is always greener – this year we see a host of new, THW maybe once minis released -- skulduggery has the most promise as I see it. perhaps the 15mm riding the heels of GW doing not minis will work -- don't get me wrong not knocking just wondering if I should join up on the not minis front. this is what is on my mind -- I am Jason of Micropanzer.com have been since 2003, I say what I am thinking and am willing to adjust once facts are in. My personal phone number is listed on my site -- who does that. you write rules call me lets work together --- if you color art and believe in the vision lets do it --- I can always get a fourth job. |
Legion 4 | 11 May 2017 6:45 a.m. PST |
I really don't care if he prays to Satan or is member of ISIS, etc. … I just want some 6mm Jasmine Throne … Old Ferengi saying/FRoA # 177, "Know Your Enemies … But do business with them always … "
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Maxim C Gatling | 11 May 2017 12:46 p.m. PST |
Indeed I don't know what he did, but I heard from my gaming group he got a bunch of bans, etc. For me, yeah, Khurasan converted me to 15mm. Finding out he's a creep is like hearing that Mad Max got a DUI and started spouting racial epithets at a female cop…just disappointing. You know? I don't really know Mel and I guess I really didn't want to. But I'm not burning my Mad Max DVD's… I'm with Jason as to we need to work together to get 15mm out of the closet and into the forefront as the standard scale for affordable gaming. 15mm models are in a renaissance in that they look fantastic nowadays and if we want more of that we need to pump the hobby so that the 15mm manufacturers can keep going financially. |
Maxim C Gatling | 11 May 2017 12:57 p.m. PST |
I own figs from all the major manufacturers. I'm going to continue to buy the figs I like from whoever makes them. Dissing another manufacturer's stuff is just asinine. If nobody likes the figs, they won't sell, simple as that. The last thing you want is people not buying your stuff because you're an ass, personally. Being a big enough ass to cause people to leave the scale is just a sin. A sin against your business and a sin against the entire hobby. So, hearing Khurasan is a jerk is disappointing. I can't say I'll never buy his stuff again, but it makes me hesitant to visit his site. It's like feuds between pop stars. Are they really competing for fans? Most fans I know like several artists and find a way to buy albums from more than one diva. |
Irish Marine | 11 May 2017 2:06 p.m. PST |
From years ago when this first came to light I thought big deal, and I still do. When my friend and I ran our WW2 15mm business we had that happen to us there were several individuals writing smack about our stuff but in the end our 15mm figures won out. If your product is sound it really doesn't matter what someone says or does. |
LoudNinjaGames | 11 May 2017 2:18 p.m. PST |
Even I have moved on. -Eli |
alien BLOODY HELL surfer | 11 May 2017 2:31 p.m. PST |
ooh, some nice stuff there on your site LoudNinja :-) |
Maxim C Gatling | 11 May 2017 2:35 p.m. PST |
Well, just look at GW. It took two decades to finally write them off and move on. A decade after that and it looks like there may be some hope for them after all. I can almost see the Astronomicon again…. |
LoudNinjaGames | 11 May 2017 6:24 p.m. PST |
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nazrat | 13 May 2017 8:03 a.m. PST |
One guy claiming Khurasan is a jerk does not make it so, no matter how many times he says it. I have no problem with doing business with him, especially since he makes pretty much the best 15mm SF stuff out there. |
Legion 4 | 13 May 2017 8:13 a.m. PST |
I'd LOVE to do business with him !!!! I'm old I want to get 6mm Jasmine Throne before I die !! "Hello … Khurasan … L4 here … come in … over … " ! |
SapphySkies | 14 May 2017 11:43 p.m. PST |
The point I think is that a guy can have great products but not be as great a person. Love the product, not the seller. Duh |
Legion 4 | 15 May 2017 8:30 a.m. PST |
I'd love to love the product ! I can't even get him to reply to an email or post on FB … Oh the humanity ! * Disclaimer : Sorry guys I just came from a thread where I was besieged by Drama and Drama Queens. I must be a collateral damage victim suffering from Post Traumatic Drama Queen Syndrome … |
SapphySkies | 16 May 2017 10:39 a.m. PST |
Fair enough, I just got into miniature wargaming and can't get a reply from him either. Been toooooo long :( |
Maxim C Gatling | 16 May 2017 11:55 a.m. PST |
Well, he's got some severely cool minis. I have $100 USD my wife doesn't know about… |
Smokey Roan | 16 May 2017 12:47 p.m. PST |
Micropanzer loves Tango! (I do too) Tango, copy and save his post! :) Smokey liking you doesn't carry much weight here. :) I remember when people wanted a "I hate Tango" board! :) |
SapphySkies | 16 May 2017 3:51 p.m. PST |
Found a good stand-in. Threw some money to RebelMinis, Micropanzer, ClearHorizon and TheIonAge. Goodbye, wallet :( |
CzarBLood | 16 May 2017 11:23 p.m. PST |
what the issue , we know it goes on , it says on the site 'We're catching up on order packing -- be back in a few days! ' Everytime someone asks this , it gets into a debate about KM and his practises , Admins , heres an idea , have a text passage that you just slap on a new thread asking why KM is down , saying whats going on , and close the thread. |
Brother Jim | 22 May 2017 1:00 p.m. PST |
He be open again….as of 3:59PM on 22 May 17, East Coast Time. |
Legion 4 | 22 May 2017 2:06 p.m. PST |
Fair enough, I just got into miniature wargaming and can't get a reply from him either. Been toooooo long :(
He has not replied to me ever … and have been emailing him for over 2 years … I'm beginning to think this is personal … |
SapphySkies | 22 May 2017 4:47 p.m. PST |
I recall you keep asking for 6mm Jasmine Throne lol |
Legion 4 | 23 May 2017 6:05 a.m. PST |
Yeah … I have been for quite sometime … I can be a bit stubborn ! LOL ! If anyone actually gets some 6 J/Throne, I'd like to buy them bare metal NIB !!!! |