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Supercilius Maximus08 May 2017 6:38 a.m. PST

Can anyone direct me to any site(s) giving basic uniform details for the 1680-1700 period?

Many thanks.

Personal logo timurilank Supporting Member of TMP08 May 2017 11:49 a.m. PST

I would use the Vinkhuijzen Collection (New York Digital Library) as a reference guide only, but it is a start.

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Cologne and Salzburg were Imperial cities within the Holy Roman Empire at the start of the 17th century but following the Thirty Years War only Cologne remain so. This should be seen on their flags with Salzburg troops carrying Imperial standards and Cologne retaining their own flags.

My own collection centres on the French-Dutch War of the 1670's for which Köln supplied troops. I seem to recall the troops of the Bishopric of Köln carried a white standard with red cross, upper canton displaying the city crest. Unfortunately, after a few system crashes I no longer have those particular links.

See the coat of arms:
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clibinarium08 May 2017 12:30 p.m. PST

There's a Robert Hall CD on Cologne available from Baccus in the UK, don't know about Salzburg (if they are different).

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Supercilius Maximus08 May 2017 1:29 p.m. PST

Thanks, chaps. I should perhaps have made it clear that I am only looking for some basic colours to paint a few allied units for a wargames competition. My main force is Bavarian (which I already have) and I am looking for two smaller allied contingents – which I assume would be Catholic. I don't want to go for the obvious Austrians, as others will have those, and their army list is a lot more restrictive than "minor" allies.

Might have a look at Wurtemmburg while I'm at it……

Altefritz08 May 2017 3:46 p.m. PST

Some Salzburg SYW flags seem issued at the beginning of XVIIIth century. The informations can be found here:

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Supercilius Maximus09 May 2017 3:20 a.m. PST

Thanks, Altefritz, that's very useful. Each of my two allied contingents needs to be two infantry battalions, one cavalry regiment, and a two-gun artillery battery, so this fulfills most of one group. I have a feeling that the white coats faced red are a traditional Salzburg colour scheme from the lat 17th Century and will go with that.

Camcleod09 May 2017 7:38 a.m. PST

If you aren't worried about which ones, the cover of the Hall CD has three Cologne uniforms:

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historygamer Supporting Member of TMP28 May 2017 5:53 p.m. PST

Need to see pictures of those troops when painted. :-)

Supercilius Maximus06 Jun 2017 4:33 a.m. PST

I'm hoping to get my son to use his new camera on them (to take pics, not bludgeon them back into lumps of raw metal) once they are completed.

Supercilius Maximus13 Jun 2017 9:56 a.m. PST

Just found the two books on WSS uniforms by CS Grant (jnr), which I had been vainly seeking for some time and which turned up on a bookshelf previously obscured by a load of my wife's stuff. He states that Cologne troops fought in blue coats very similar in colour to the Bavarians, which is not as surprising as it sounds, since the state was also ruled by a branch of the Wittelsbach family.

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