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Stuart M02 May 2017 11:22 p.m. PST

Hello all

I've created some dollies in coats to speed up my efforts in creating some early Tudors. They were not developed with sale being the primary aim but they are available for preorder for anyone who's interested.

They're not complete figures and further modelling is required but they've satisfied the primary aim of speeding up my sculpting process.

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International postage is no problem. More details are on my blog;

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Thanks

Stuart

Supercilius Maximus03 May 2017 1:34 a.m. PST

Presumably these could be used with the helmeted heads and arms from the Perry WotR plastic sets, and the "bonneted" heads from their Italian Wars metal range?

I don't think anyone else makes early Tudor figures (all 1540s and Elizabethan), so well done Stuart.

Stuart M03 May 2017 2:02 a.m. PST

They can indeed, in fact that was my aim, here they are assembled as Bill. They're made to fit the Perry plastic sets and just require assembly and simple sleeves to be added for the top of the jackets a bit of rudimentary sculpting but not too much effort to bring those sets into the early 1500's

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Stuart M03 May 2017 2:20 a.m. PST

A few individual shots

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Crazyivanov03 May 2017 3:27 a.m. PST

Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

Puster Supporting Member of TMP03 May 2017 7:10 a.m. PST

These call out for a Guinegate 1513 campaign. Perhaps for the abandonded invasion of 1514, with a core of 15k Landsknechts under de la Pole reviving the War of the Roses…

Stuart M03 May 2017 7:10 a.m. PST

Here's a tutorial on how to build the figure and sculpt the sleeves;

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Supercilius Maximus05 May 2017 11:19 a.m. PST

My problem is avoiding making the upper sleeves look like Space Marines.

Gustav A Inactive Member06 May 2017 1:16 a.m. PST

Great work, shaping metal & plastic to look like cloth is not easy as cloth is such an alive material when worn.

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Stuart M19 May 2017 6:24 a.m. PST

Here they are painted

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More details on my blog;

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Thanks

Stuart

Puster Supporting Member of TMP19 May 2017 7:52 a.m. PST

Looking forward to get some in my hands :-)

Supercilius Maximus27 May 2017 3:51 a.m. PST

Are you going to do other sets for archers/arquebusiers and pikemen? I would be willing to help out with costs if that's a problem.

Stuart M27 May 2017 5:03 a.m. PST

I'll definitely do some archers and possibly some walking poses too. I'm not sure when but I'm on it

Supercilius Maximus28 May 2017 5:27 a.m. PST

We're having our annual "Italian Wars" FoGR bash at Wessex WS on Sunday 24th September, if you fancy coming down again? It will be at a different venue, but nearby. I think I still have your email somewhere – and, masochist that I am, I shall be using Early Henrician again (although I have managed to persuade them to alter the lists to allow arquebusiers).

Stuart M28 May 2017 10:33 a.m. PST

Here they are based and ready for action

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Stuart M28 May 2017 10:34 a.m. PST

I'll drop you an email Brendan, cheers.

Supercilius Maximus29 May 2017 2:52 a.m. PST

Just out of interest, when would the livery coat be worn? One assumes in battle, and for parades/reviews, but what about day-to-day duties in camp etc? Presumably, unless strictly kept "for best" they would have become fairly grubby what with being predominantly white?

Supercilius Maximus29 May 2017 11:24 a.m. PST

Got the email, Stuart, and will get back to you.

Stuart M29 May 2017 1:04 p.m. PST

Not sure really, they were fairly heavily regulated in terms of dress but as you say I think practicality may well have come into things – it's one reason that I paint them in a canvas type colour and not brilliant white.

The coats were issued centrally and for the 1513 campaign statutes were laid down that any man not wearing the cross of st. George could be executed which is telling but also hints that it doesn't necessarily have to have been on a coat.

That campaign was also conducted in some fairly terrible weather and was predominantly siegework so I daresay they didn't remain white for long. That said for some it could have been their only coat so I guess there's scope either way.

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